What's the point?

The point of studying is to get good grades so that you can get a good job in the future. Lets say you stop studying and continue to blow off work... what will this achieve? It may lead you to be a dropout and a young adult with no qualifications to show for. What if you don't suicide in the end? You will be without a great job and end up cleaning toilets for the rest of your life or something.

Also, do you not want to experience love? Somewhere down the line there will be a guy waiting for you but how are you going to afford a nice house or apartment for you both to live in if your salary is effectively :***: :lol:

 

In my opinion, I think you answered your own question. The point of everything is the pursuit, to be engaged in the process of living. A Christian may call this process Discernment, a Buddhist the path to Nirvana, a Hindu the path to Moksha, an Atheist, the path to Understanding. The catch is, you have to choose to become part of that pursuit.

I have trod the path you walk now, one of despondency, uncertainty, and depression. But I learned to not be caught in the trees but to climb them and view the forest. I guarantee you there is more than sorrow in this life regardless of your belief system. I was able to climb the tree through reading a lot of philosophy and learning new ways to view the world. I recommend two books, neither of which is inherently religious in any way, but both of them in conjunction taught me a new way to look at life. One is Sophie's World by Jostein Gaarder (translated from Norwegian). It is essentially an easy to read history of philosophy that goes a step further. The other is Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Alan Pirsig. This one is a bit more cerebral and explores the origins and applications of Values.

I'm sorry for the dense post, but you asked a pretty dense question I'll leave you with a quote from Sophie's World:

"A lot of people experience the world with the same incredulity as when a magician suddenly pulls a rabbit out of a hat which has just been shown to be empty.

In the case of the rabbit. we know the magician has tricked us. What we would like to know is just how he did it. But when it comes to the world it's somewhat different. We know the world is not all sleight of hand and deception because here we are in it, we are part of it. Actually, we are the white rabbit being pulled out of the hat. The only difference between us and the white rabbit is that the rabbit does not realize it is taking part in a magic trick. Unlike us. We feel we are part of something mysterious and we would like to know how it all works.

P.S. As far as the white rabbit is concerned, it might be better to compare it with the whole universe. We who live here are microscopic insects existing deep down in the rabbit's fur. But philosophers are always trying to climb up the fine hairs of the fur in order to stare right into the magician's eyes"

P.S.S. For dealing with issues related to being gay, I'd also recommend It Gets Better by Dan Savage. It's a collection of essays recounting how life gets better for the LGBT community despite how bleak the present seems. As always, feel free to message me if you want to chat!

-Nick

 

There is no point.

But that doesn't mean there isn't anything to live for. You have to find reasons to live, that's the hard part imo. Do you want to travel? Do you want to study something? Find a life long hobby? Fall in love? Have friends? Work at doing doing something you love? Achieve great things? Create a beautiful home and family? Play as many computer games as you possible can?

Life is only what you make of it.

 

Oh I know what thats like sucks majorly, I cant study, can only sometimes read books, cant listen to people talk to me for more then 30sec or i zone out, cant just watch shows or a movie most of the time as i get distracted I have to be playing a game or surfing the web, cant even JO unless i focus on porn. My mind is a real bitch to work with, constantly thinking sucks.

Yeah I know what you mean, Ive been depressed for like the last 5 years or more and I have felt like you have and still do for the most part but small changes have happened and I want things now, not a lot of things but its a start.

But I cant tell you there is a point to living because I truly don't see that there is one. I mean I guess you could say that's it to find "happiness" in what ever form you can that suits you.

Just give things time, your depression is most likely making things all the more confusing and it can make it seem like nothing is appealing anymore but it most likely wont always be that way. So if you can get an education now I strongly suggest finding a way to do so that works for you. I dropped out at a very young age and even though I couldn't really help it at the time, I regret it now all the same.

 

The point of life is finding your own point to life.


No seriously.

I know this seems like a cop-out answer. But just think about it for a minute. Life without meaning or direction is unfufilling and uninteresting. As you said, computer games make a better alternative. But once you have a purpose or a direction in life - then it becomes a rich, exciting and enriching journey.

Whether your 'point' is riches, happiness, romance or becoming the worlds best paper napkin folder - life will seem like it has purpose, when you decide what it is that you are going to make your life all about.

So yes - as long as you don't have a 'point' or purpose to your life, it won't seem worthwhile.

Logically then, if you wanted to make your life seem worthwhile to you - you'd find a 'point'.

So arguably, if you're life is without purpose right now, and that disturbs/annoys/distresses you.

I'd say the purpose of your life right now, is to find a purpose to it.



As for how to do that, don't look at me. I don't know your situation, circumstances, personal preferences etc. And I'm having enough trouble trying to find my own purpose in life.

 

I have had similar thoughts myself Zaio. My friends and family make life worth living for me. I just enjoy being with them. I guess you can say the purpose of life is to create happiness for yourself. If death is just death, then there will never be any happiness (or anything) after life, so I guess we just have to make the best of it while we can. Not a great answer, but I feel the purpose of life in general (as in humanity, not just your own specific life) can never really be discovered.

 

This is my first post. I had to join in order to reply to you. I felt I needed to say something. I understand where you are coming from Zaio. Classic signs of depression include, hopelessness, lack of interest, and difficulty concentrating. ALL of which you shared that you were experiencing. You also said that you were diagnosed with Bipolar disorder and that you are not currently on medication. The fact that you refer to yourself as an "unmedicated bipolar" tells me that perhaps you feel you need to be on medication? Do YOU think that your symptoms are starting to get the better of you? As for the suicidal thoughts, you and I both know that is one of the trademarks of bipolar patients. I applaud you for reaching out to the community here in your time of need. I think that the things said by Nick are incredibly valuable, but I want you to know that I understand that your issue goes beyond your world view. Your view of the world is distorted by your emotions, and sometimes your lack thereof. Living with bipolar disorder is not an easy task WITH medication. Sometimes people can't take medication because they either can't afford it, dont like the poor side effects or they simply don't respond to it. I honestly think that you are not yet in a place where you can guide your own thoughts to the place they need to be in order for you to determine your purpose/place in life. People have debated the meaning of life since the beginning of time. You are not likely to find your answers in the current depressive state you are in by means of a good read. That comes later. I also want you to know that no one can tell you "what the point to life is" as it is different for everyone. People spend their whole lives on a never ending road of self-discovery. That road is different for us all. I would suggest seeking out someone who you can confide in such as a councilor. Those can be hit or miss as people are not compatible with everyone but I suggest starting the search. Please keep in mind that your thoughts and feelings and the very way you look at the world when you are bipolar is not always accurate. The chemicals in your brain cause you to feel, think and act in ways that are not always in line with reality. Please just be sure you are seeing things CLEARLY before making any life altering decisions such as ending your schooling or your life for that matter.