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Do I tell him?

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by Willisilliw, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. Willisilliw

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    I just need advice if I should come out to my best friend. (first time posting, sorry if it sucks :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: ). Okay, so... We have been friends since we were 1. (literally, since we were one) I guess you could say we are more like brothers at this point, our birthdays are one day apart, and I swear we can read each other's minds. He isn't religious or anything but he has said he thinks gay guys are grosse. I have brought up stuff like Dont ask don't tell and he said he would support it cause he doesn't want a gay guy looking at him in the shower. Ridiculous, I know... But what really got me was when I asked what he would do if one of our friends was gay... Well sorta... I guess he technically told me. Here is how it went.

    Him: Would you still be friends if *said friend* was gay?
    Me: well, yes. He would still be the same guy.
    Him: I don't think I would
    Me: wut? Why?
    Him: because that would be grosse since he would want my :***: !
    Me: :bang:
    *this is what gets me*
    Him: I wouldn't be friends with a gay guy. *exact words*

    That's what really is getting at me. I want to come out but every time I think about it I
    hear those words. I know I should tell him but I am just too afraid of ending our friendship... Advice would be great. Thanks for listening, it feels good to just write this.

    *also, he is completely oblivious to my hints that I'm gay.nfor example: I never talk about girls, and if he asks me about them I quickly drop the subject.
     
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    oh wow.

    gee, im not sure. I'm not gay, i am Christian raised to think I'm wrong and you are wrong..all that..and yet always love everybody. i personally even in closet times would still been a gay persons friend.

    so he must fear that gay men all hunger to fuck men? can you maybe 1st show him how this is untrue? how old is he, 15?

    maybe you can never tell him...but then if you really are gay, and not attracted to him at all, he will never know you and other gay men are not all out to get at him...you could take the chance, and by his knowing you so well, he may stop thinking that way.
     
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    well what he said really hurts, so first of all a big big hug (*hug*)
    well, by what he said it is kinda obvious that he is really homophobic, maybe by having serious talks you can change his mind. but right now coming out to him can have different results, lets list them up:
    based on homophobic things he said first his reaction will be rejection but this can end in two ways
    1) you say his almost like your brother, if you explain for him that you are not and never crushed on him, after the first shock he will come back to you and every thing will be as always used to be with a little difference, he will know you better :slight_smile:
    2) the ugly scenario, he won't accept you. you are gay and no matter what it wont change, this will hurt, but it's his decision.
    you can't stay in closet for ever, one day you will be out to all, and even not talking about that day, in future there will be lots of awkward situations (situations beyond talking about girls, think about the time that he is dating and then he asks you about your date), Doors of this closet can't be closed forever.

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    and last thing to add, EC, and all of us are here to help each other :slight_smile: feel free to ask or post :slight_smile: (&&&)
     
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    Even though he is your best friend, I think he might not be the best *first* person to come out to.

    Someday, you will come out to him. At first, it's likely that he'll have a hard time with it, but I expect he'll come around. He might freak out a little, or he might say it's cool and then pull away from you for a little while--he will probably need some time to process it emotionally. Just understand that his immediate reaction is just that--an emotional reaction--and not necessarily a considered response. Keep the door open on your friendship for when he's ready to be accepting of you.

    For a first coming out, though, you want to choose someone who is likely to be accepting of you right away. Do you have anyone like that?
     
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    this ^ is really thoughtful :slight_smile: esp, the last paragraph :slight_smile: creating a support net before coming out to important people is essential :slight_smile:
     
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    I agree with Ianthe.. again (this seems to be a new trend of mine).
    He needs to know eventually, it will hurt him way more when it comes to his attention later. I say when, not if because it will happen. The issue with him hearing it secondhand is that he will see you as a "f*g and a liar" He may love you like a brother, but hurting him, and coming out with something that he evidently doesn't like would be a gigantic punch in the face for him emotionally.
     
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    I used to think that being LGBT was wrong because I grew up in the church. My thoughts on this changed when my friends started to come out to me. It made me question what I was taught growing up.

    I would not come out to this person first. I would come out to some others so that you have a support group first. It will probably take some time for your friend to come around.
     
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    Yeah you guys/girls have a good point. Now I just need to find someone I can tell, which isn't the easiest thing when you live in Scottsdale, AZ. Majority of The people here republican/ southern baptist Christians. I can problably tell a few of my friends though.
    Oh yeah, almost forgot, he is 15. I have been trying to convince him that gay men do not just want to have sex with him, but he just doesn't get the picture.

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    P.s. Thanks for the advice
     
  9. Ianthe

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    Gay men like only some guys. Most will not be interested in him, and if they are, they will leave it alone, knowing he is straight. Nobody likes to be rejected.

    But maybe he is the kind of guy who won't leave a girl alone even after she tells him she's a lesbian, and he expects gay men to be the same as he is in that way. I don't know.

    Gay people have the full range of romantic feelings that straight people do--they may be anywhere from uninterested in a particular person, to having a severe romantic attachment.

    Non-romantic sexual interest in close friends is unusual. You either aren't interested in the person, or you have serious romantic interest, not just lustful sexual desire.
     
  10. Willisilliw

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    ^ funny story, he did actually hit on a girl for a while ( I thought it was obvious that she was a lesbian from the moment I met her, almost no gaydar needed) but he asked her out. She obviously said no. He felt like an idiot, and I realized that I can't hint to him because he will not pick it up. ( I actually gave him pointers to tune up his gaydar just so he could pick up my hints).
    P.s. He still is oblivious to my hints.
     
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    Well, maybe you could remind him of how bad it felt when she turned him down, and point out that gay guys really do their best to only like other gay guys, because nobody likes to feel like that. Rejection is not fun. So even if a gay guy is attracted to your friend, he will try not to dwell on it since he knows it can't go anywhere.

    Actually, that situation is completely illustrative. Maybe you can get him to see that even if a guy likes him, it's just like him being into that gay girl. All he would have to do is what she did.
     
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    That's a good point, thanks.
    Btw I had no idea about him even talking to her until after the ordeal... Don't want to sound like a jerk who stood back and let my friend get rejected, I'm not that kind of guy.

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    Sorry if I came off that way