Ex-Homosexuals

I don't think that it is possible. I tried to make god change me for a long time and nothing happened. I think that these people in these videos are denying who they are and saying that they are happy. You cannot change who you are.

 

I tried praying that I am not gay... and attempt to stop watching porn... which was failed since it's hard for me to keep off.. XD
at the same time, there was these boys that I have attractions too...

I have no idea what video that is, since I only go to the music side of youtube. A lot of Christians say that they can do X by putting God first. But exactly what is the true "putting God first" effect have leave me confuzzled. You can technically do "good" and "bad" things by putting God first.

 

No it's not possible, and efforts to change sexual orientation in other people are properly called abuse. And no, we can't self-condition ourselves into a different orientation.

 

I am always curious... what about other synonymous effort to "change X" in other people that's kind of considered abuse?

believes? race? idk?

 

Ticklish Fish: I don't know what you're talking about. Please help me understand.

And no, pinklov3ly, she's not fine. She's trying to run away from being gay, and that's a mental health breakdown waiting to happen. We'll see how long it takes her, but it'll happen. It's extremely hard for any sexual to be celibate for ever.

 

I always see the argument that attempt to force people to change their sexuality is an abuse... but what other things can a society force people to change themselves that can be an abuse?

 

I don't think so, but that's a conversation for another thread.

 

Step 1) Don't believe in God.
Step 2) ???
Step 3) Profit.

 

love it! <3 south park

and no, imo it's not possible

 

Ok, so while I didn't go as deep as this girl, those of you who have read my past threads will know that similar techniques were used on me. Brainwashing/childhood indoctrination can make someone believe anything... Hell, I once had a friend who thought he was an orange for a year after a bad acid trip. The brain can be convinced of anything, but it doesn't make it healthy. No matter how hard she believes she is "cured" it will come back to haunt her. I feel so bad for this girl, yet another lost soul led away from her true self and true desires by the cold, pitiless construct that society calls "the God of Love". Religion brings such pain, I can't believe I ever subscribed to such delusions.

 

Chip, I really, really wish there was a way I could get more people to acknowledge what you just said. Because it's so true. While coming out/realising my sexuality, the number of Yahoo Answers posts that were about abused kids who then realise that the only reason they were gay was because they were scared/needed affection of a certain parent.

What people also need to acknowledge, just as you said, is that those people are completely different to those who were gay from birth. Completely. I have a fine relationship with my parents, and nobody has abused me. Why am I gay/bi you ask? I personally think it's the hormones my brain was exposed to when I was developing in the womb. I really feel like my brain, although settled in my gender, is considerably male. IT IS IN MY BRAIN. And thus, therapy will only teach me how to mask it.

I've thought about it. Because, to be honest, when coming out to Christian parents "because I find girls hot" doesn't sound like a great reason. I just think it'd be really difficult to figure out who I was/am if I kept suppressing parts of it as I have been for a while.

 

I literally need to bookmark this thread. This is so trill I cannot find ways to express my agreement. The saddest thing is that it's all here though. It's only here. This fact is only visible to people who are already gay, or know gay people. If only there was a way to make more people see this.

This is a truth. We all know it within ourselves. This cannot change. The only thing that can change are the people dealing with this truth. I feel like more people need to hear it. There needs to be a discussion group that goes around, occasionally visiting churches and PFLAG groups (never heard of those before this website, didn't know they existed, aren't any in my area at least) and just explaining it to people. Laying it out, black and white. Because it's not fair how many impressionable people are being exposed to this sort of stuff.

#11 – Pastor Donnie McClurkin’s Gay Church | UK Progressive - this is an example of a prominent religious figure giving completely the wrong message and condoning homophobia, claiming to be ex-gay himself. This stuff is so poisonous and wrong yet I know when I explain it to my mother she just will not get it at all. It's why I'm not out to my family yet. We're religious, and my Mum's actually very into Donnie McClurkin's music and TV shows etc etc. Black religious families influenced by American gospel, you know the deal.

Very sad.

 

I'm wondering if the opposite could truly happen since one of my lesbian friends told me that any girl could "flip over" unless she has strong religious convictions. I'm still really doubtful about that but it does open the door for me to wondering if someone straight could really become bi or gay/lesbian without a history of abuse or anything like that just because they had a particular experience or were convinced.

But pertaining to the question, I will never be straight since I'll always want emotional connections with women and the physical attraction that I may have will always be with men. I could look at a physically attractive woman the whole day and the most that happens to me is probably a blush because she's actually showing me her naked body. :3

What I'm really wondering is why this is such an issue with people, clearly complete brainwashing through ex-gay therapies (e.g. The "Sissy" Project during the 70's) only teach participants how to suppress their feelings for others of the same sex. It's something that my parents have asked me if I wanted to do more than a few times but I always came up with a reply that I'll either be damaged for life or I'm too smart for that, but I understand their worry and interest since they're devout Catholics. Besides, we only make up around 5% of the population (10% if you count all those who have had attractions with those of the same sex), we're just a minority that many in the heterosexual majority want to control by not giving us our rights as humans, whether it's through religious conviction or through evolutionary superiority, it's still not right!

Until people realize that, there will always be the theory that any person who's LGBTQ could become straight after "proper" psychological intervention.

 

In the documentary, "Love in Action" some of the gay people who went there stated some pretty sad things.
1. They we're not cured
2. They left the facility even more sad, and emotionally damaged. They made them feel like scum.
3. There we're many suicides within the facility, and I believe people tried after they we're released.

While yes, I believe very few people can change their sexuality, I also believe that most of the very few are miserable. Thankfully, the facilty got closed down.

 

It amazes me how many youtube videos there are of ex gay testimonies. I do watch some of them and I can see through their denial how much pain they must be in. To be that brainwashed into thinking they made a "bad choice" and now they found god is really hard to watch. At a low point in my life I contacted a state ex gay organization and they were very welcoming. They tried convincing me to do everything I can to change and to go out of my way to come see their organization.
The ex gay community believes that being gay means turning away from God and that being ex gay will turn you to God. I tried at some points in my life to change and it did not work. It just caused me to sink into depression. I could choose to deny my sexuality all my life and just ignore it living a lonely single life but I know where that would eventually lead me.
There are politicians who believe in this crap such as Michele Bachmann or I would call her the new Anita Bryant. If a gay kid killed themselves in from of Michele's eyes or any homphobic politicians would they care. I don't think any of them would at all.