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Trying to figure this all out..... (sorry, pretty long)

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by FindingMe, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. FindingMe

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    Hi everyone. I'm not sure exactly where to start....but here goes

    I'm just starting to come to terms with the fact that I'm probably gay. I've had plenty of little hints over the years and I've shoved them away because they scared the hell out of me.

    In Jr High and High School gay to me was just some thing I'd heard about that was more of a joke than a real thing. I didn't even really understand what it was. Had a couple little hints here and there on reflection, like locker room and such, but none of that would have made any sense to me back then.

    Late teens/early 20s I started to feel like maybe I wanted to see what this whole sex/relationship thing was all about. I didn't really know what I was doing or even what i wanted from it, but it seemed like what i was supposed to be doing cause it was what everyone else was doing. I'd go out to the clubs and bars with my friends and sometimes talk to and dance with girls, but the whole process just seemed silly. The times I'd dance I wasn't really having the fun I expected I would. It just felt kinda awkward and forced, and I'd be relieved when it was over. Sometimes the girls would come after me, but again it felt awkward and forced. I got a few numbers, but never called them. I tried some internet dating and had lots of conversations with girls online, but only ever went to meet one of them, and then I just kinda made chit chat and waited for it to be over.

    A little later I had a couple encounters with female friends and got hooked up with someone by my friends. I liked being with someone, and kissing and cuddling was nice. When things got more serious though it was always a bit of a disaster. It wasn't what I'd expected it to be. Just kinda mechanical and boring. I made all kinds of excuses as to why. Nervous, just not good at it yet, need to find the right person......and on and on. Still didn't really consider there might be something else going on.

    Around that same time I had a male friend that mentioned a coffee shop he liked, and i went along to check it out. It happened to be in the gay neighborhood, but I didn't really think anything of it, cause the coffee and pastries were good, and it seemed like a nice place to hang out. I started going there with him a lot, and occasionally would get hit on by guys. My reaction to that was not at all what i had expected. I'd get kinda shy, and smile and laugh a lot, but say oh, no, sorry i'm straight. But inside it felt good, really flattering and made me feel kinda special. Eventually, the guy I was going there with told me he was bi and interested in me. My mind was racing, I didn't know what to feel. We went to a park and sat next to the water kinda leaning up against each other, almost kinda a cuddle thing and talked about it. It dragged up all the little hints i'd had over the years and kinda brought them into focus for the first time. That really freaked me out, and I told him I didn't think I'd be into that, and even if he was he wasn't my type. I couldn't believe my response was anything but revulsion. It just didn't make sense. I'm straight, why am i saying this stuff? Why do i feel this way??? I avoided him as much as i could after that and went back to trying to find a girl, without any success. Moved away from there not long after and pushed it all out of my mind, shoved it deep down and told myself it was just a weird anomaly.

    By that time I was only making the occasional halfhearted attempt to find a girl and that eventually tapered off to basically nothing. Moved again, far enough away that I lost contact with most of my friends over the years, and went back to just having a few close friends. I pretty much gave up on trying to find a girl or anything and focused on hobbies and work and stuff. Just ignored most of my feelings.

    Up to that point I'd only watched straight porn. But i started kinda peeking every now and then at gay. I told myself it was just so see what it was all about, just an intellectual curiosity, and once that curiosity had been satisfied I'd stop. That didn't happen. I'd start looking more and more, but it would make me feel like I was doing something wrong. It started to bring back those feelings I'd had at the coffee shop and with that guy, and it really messed with my mind. I'd keep pushing it down and ignoring it and I'd stop looking for a while, but it would always come back. That's been going on up to about now.

    Lately I've been wanting to find a real relationship, as I'm tired of being alone. Trying the bar thing a little, couple blind dates, poked around dating sites a bit with no luck findning anyone I had interest in meeting. I've been talking to a family member who's also my best friend about why I'm just not finding what I'm looking for for a few months. Eventually I started to tell her about the experiences I've had in the past. I told her I thought i might be bi. We've been discussing that for a while now, and she's been super supportive and helpful. About 2 weeks ago we were having a fairly in depth conversation about how I feel about everything, how I like the way good looking women look, but i don't really have any idea where I'd go with them from there. How I've had some feelings for quite a while that I might enjoy being with a guy, and how the thought of it gave me feelings that aren't really there when I think about being with women. She finally point blank asked me if I was sure I wasn't just gay. When she said that it's like something kinda clicked in my brain. I gave it some serious thought, more than I'd ever let myself before because I'd been too afraid and didn't have anyone I'd trusted enough or supportive enough to discuss it with, and things started making more sense than they ever have.

    I started poking around this forum and other places after that, and I'm really starting to see a lot of people saying a lot of things that I've been dealing with for years. Things that had terrified me, and made me ashamed of myself. I feel like a weight has been lifted. My emotions are all over the place and the problem I'm having now is that I keep second guessing myself. Is this REALLY true?? What does this mean to my life? Am i just convincing myself I'm gay because I can't find a girlfriend? What is this going to do to my friends, family and job?? I'm starting to accept it, and for the most part it feels really good, but the doubts that keep popping up are making me nuts. I worked up the courage to tell 2 of my sisters, scared to death what they might think, and they have been super supportive too!

    So now I'm not sure where to go from there. Part of me wants to just start telling everyone. Part of me still won't accept it and keeps tossing doubts around. I've been looking for local groups that I might be able to join. But I'm still scared about what it all means. I know I'm still me, and that this really shouldn't be so hard to accept, but.... I just don't know. I'm still really confused and I'm hoping I'll settle down after a bit.

    Sorry for the long post...
     
  2. aspiecarer

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    Hi and welcome
    If you can have a look at the TV programme about Gareth Thomas (Welsh Rugby player) coming out.He addresses some of the issues you raise..
    If I was in your situation I'd probably 'hang out' on here for a bit, just looking into the various threads..
    You'll see how others have 'coped' with coming out and you may find that neither the term 'gay' nor 'straight' really applies to you..but once you accept who you are you can then start being happy with yourself and get out of life what it is you desire..
     
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    Hi and welcome to EC!

    You definitely found the right place to talk. The people here are supportive, encouraging, and just fun to talk to. And believe me, I don't think there is anywhere else on the internet like here.

    Anyways, to me, it seems you are gay. Or at least bisexual. Now, I can't make any real judgment calls. I'm not you. I don't know exactly what you think and feel. But I assume you are gay, so what you're going through is perfectly natural. I can personally say that I went through a similar situation. At one point, I thought that by thinking gay thoughts all the time, I made myself gay. I talked to a gay friend of mine and he told me this: "If you can fap to it, you like it." Meaning, if you get aroused by men, you are gay, women, you are straight, both, you are bisexual. But that's just the sexual part.

    Romance can be another part. And from what you've written, you really liked the attention and flirting you were getting from the other guys.

    But what you need to do is take a deep breath and relax. I know how tough that can be, but it's probably one of the best advice I received when I was figuring out I was gay. I frequently worked myself into a huge worry, wondering this and that and worrying about friends and family and such. Try to take it a step at a time, a day at a time. You don't do any good worrying and wondering.

    The BEST thing I heard was this: "You love who you love. Simple as that." This quote is something that I took to heart and cherish. My friend was wise beyond his years when he said that. There is no label. For anyone. Nobody fits in a box. But people like to group people all together. Gays are often portrayed as promiscuous, sex-crazed, they dress in drag, they are flamboyant. And yes, that can describe SOME of the gay community. YOU ARE NOT A STEREOTYPE!!! There is only ONE label for anyone. And that is your full name. You are unique. Don't be discouraged. You can and will get through this tough time in your life. And know that EC will always be here to listen and help you.
     
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    Thanks for the welcome and the supportive responses! The more time i spend here the more I see I'm not even close to alone in all of this. And it's really nice to see how many regular everyday non-stereotype people there are out there that just happen to be attracted to the same sex. What I really want is someone i can share life, good and bad, with. I'm starting to get comfortable with the idea that it really doesn't matter if that's a guy or a girl as long as it's someone I love. Every day it's getting a little better, but I still break down sometimes. Even that i don't mind so much, I've suppressed my emotions for so long it actually feels nice to just let it all out like that. My sisters and cousin continue to give me lots of support and encouragement and it's so nice. Now I'm trying to figure out if i go further with it and start talking to some friends about it. I'm not sure yet, I'm still not entirely comfortable with it myself yet. But the one thing i know for sure now and can fully accept is that I'm definitely not straight. And I'm pretty OK with that now. I've spent my life trying to live up to expectations in all aspects of life not just sexuality, my own as much as those of others. Accepting this has been helping me get over all of that nonsense. I can feel myself just being me finally instead of thinking about how others might perceive me.

    Ok, I'll stop gushing now. Thanks again for the welcome and kind words!
     
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    It's okay. Gush away. We're all here for you. And trust me, you're not alone in wanting a long-term relationship either. Even though it can seem hopeless at times on the dating scene, look everywhere. Try to stay away from online dating. That almost always ends up being about sex. Just get to know people in your area and work from there. I wish you luck!
     
  6. FindingMe,
    I just want to tell you that your situation is almost exactly like mine. I spent my whole life ignoring the little signs that I was gay. Like, why did a guy with a big, round belly really make me want to look? Or, why did I like looking at underwear catalogs? Or why did I have wet dreams about men? Or, why could I never get aroused for anything to do with women? I just kept telling myself that I was straight and ignored, ignored, ignored. I made sure that I was always too busy to think about it. Oh, I have school to work on, or work or this or that. And, I even ignored the times when other people got girlfriends and I got all depressed saying things like "I'm a WAY better catch than HIM. Why can't I get a girlfriend?" I think deep down inside (like WAY DEEP down) I just knew that a girlfriend was never going to happen.
    I finally couldn't lie to myself anymore when I was watching "Brokeback Mountain" and had the biggest hard-on I ever had. I mean, I was WATCHING the "gay cowboy" movie and was totally hot for it. I couldn't ignore that, and ever since then I have had the same experience as you. I look at men in real life now and fantasize over them. I want a man to hold me and get hot for me and me for him likewise.
    A few days ago, I went to a LGBT meeting and I really felt like the guys there were looking at me, and it felt GOOD. I liked them looking at my body and wanting it. I want people to want me, and the attention was nice. Afterward, we had a post-party at a place, and I had a make-out/feel-up session with this guy (my first ever make-out/feel-up session with anyone BTW). Oh my goodness it was hot for me. I came home and couldn't sleep. I only slept about two hours that night. I mean, I totally had the HOTS for him. It really solidified for me that I'm just gay. And that's OK. I had a REALLY bad December because I was terrified of being gay. I didn't want to be gay, I didn't ask to be gay, and no amount of doing anything seemed to change that. I was pacing at home and hyperventilating all the time. My lungs just seemed to be squeezed out when I had the thought that "OH MY GOD, I'm just GAY." All those years I tried to pray away the gay have failed, etc. But now, I'm feeling a lot better about it. I mean, I kissed a guy and felt him up and it made me hot. And, I TOTALLY wanted to taste him and smell him and see him and feel him and hear him. Just all of that. Especially the smell. It's OK to be gay. I never would have thought that I could think that, but now I do. Sometimes I still get a little choked up about it if I think on it too hard. But hell, I spent 30 years denying it, and it has been about 6 weeks since I figured this out. I don't think that's too bad. I really want to find one person to have a long-term relationship with, and I'll have to start working on that.
    Just know that you aren't alone. You didn't choose to be gay. But if you are gay, it can't be changed. But, your attitude to it can be changed. If life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. If life gives you gay, you roll around with a dude.
     
  7. cm81990

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    FindingMe, I can relate to your story as well! You seem to enjoy the affectionate/emotional/romantic part with women, but not the sexual. I am exactly the same way. The sexual to me, like you described, was boring and mechanical. I knew I lusted for guys and had thoughts of them.... But I constantly tried to bury it and kept trying to date girls hoping to find one I would like to get sexual with. Never happened, probably never will. It took me awhile to get comfortable with the fact that I can enjoy it all with guys and that I haven't found the right guy yet. It is hard to imagine a relationship with another guy due to society cramming heterosexuality down your throat and upholding that as the ideal relationship. I'm now 22, and it has taken me since puberty (when I first started to notice guys) to be comfortable with a gay relationship. Remember though that sometimes life can throw us some interesting twists. In theory, you may find a girl that you would like to get sexual with. However, don't base your whole life on finding that rare exception. If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Focus on what you know deep down in your heart who you rather be with.