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Am I gay? Please answer me. I'm sick of waiting for someone to reply

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by AnomynousMan, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. AnomynousMan

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    I'm age 16, and a male. I only have crushes on girls. There's a girl now who I like a lot and whenever I'm near her I have this overall great feeling inside. I just want to hold her hand or kiss her and hold her and never let go. I have NEVER felt even close to this for a guy. I just seem to have one problem. It's like a fetish. I don't actually, in real life feel attracted to guys, but when I know something is gay, I can masturbate to it. It really doesn't matter what it is, but If something goes off in mt brain that says, wow, that's gay, then I can masturbate to it. I just don't have those urges in real life for real life people. With girls, I can masturbate, but it's not as fast. The only thing is that I seem to have more urges for girls in real life, like at school, like if a girl has big boobs and she is like fiddling with her bra, I get an erection. I have both gay and straight dreams. I am usually aware in the gay dreams that it's pretty darn gay, so, again, I don't like the guys that much, it's the fact that it's gay. I have used the smell test before and I particularly enjoy the smell of girls. It draws me in and makes me at least temporarily draws me in, and gives me attraction to them. When I was 15 or maybe I was 16, I'm not sure... I was in Drama class and the teacher made us learn how to dance, and I was paired with this girl, and she had this smell, which was not a great smell, but I liked it and I was turned on my it. I've never felt like this for a guy before. Am I gay or Bisexual? If I am bi, do you think I'm a Kinsey 2, 3, or 4?
     
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    It sounds like you might be bi. But, no matter what you're unique.
     
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    Yeah, you seem bisexual, probably like 2.7 on the kinsey scale. A good way to tell is by who you masturbate to
     
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    You need to take time, and not worry about sex or sexuality just yet. You are only 16. Go ahead and have fantasies about both types of partners you think are attractive.

    Eventually you will have the opportunity to have some play with a guy, and see if you like it as much as the fantasy. It might be only fantasies you like about guys, not really doing anything.

    At least were are now entering an era when guys can try the same sex, and then be straight if they want to be. Or have girls they enjoy, but a guy is really what they want in bed.

    But it is best not to be a two-timer, and always practice safe sex. You don't want to meet a guy and fall deeply in love with him in every way, and find out you also have a baby on the way. Or even worse, decide you want to settle down a bit with one girl, but find out you are HIV positive from one night only you had sex with a guy.

    Be safe, and not sorry.
     
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    Fantasise about whoever you want. Gay, straight, doesn't matter. Sexuality is fluid, and you're young - you really don't need to label yourself just yet. You say there's a girl that you're interested in at the moment. Great! Pursure it, if you want, see where things go. Maybe in the future you'll end up crushing on a member of the same sex. Who knows? Eventually, you'll get a better idea of what your orientation is. Maybe you're straight, maybe you're bi. You don't need to decide that right away. Go with the flow, that's my motto.

    I indentify as "queer", simply because I'm not sure what I am. I'm not 100% straight, but I'm not 100% gay, I'm somewhere in between. Instead of labelling myself, I just take it one day at a time.

    Best of luck!
     
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    I'm also leaning in the direction of bisexual, but I have a couple questions that might help clarify.

    First, about the fantasies you spoke of. You said "when I know something is gay, I masturbate to it." Can you describe that more clearly? by "something", are you speaking about a person, or the idea of two guys making out or having sex, or something else?

    Also, you indicated that it is easier for you to masturbate and orgasm when you are thinking about guys or "gay stuff" rather than about girls. Would you say you are more aroused (i.e, more excited, and it's easier to get off) when thinking about guys and gay stuff than about girls? Or is it about the same? Or girls more?

    Here's what complicates things: Sometimes our mind plays tricks on us. When we begin to realize we might be gay, our mind puts up all sorts of rationalizations and denials that serve to "protect" us and allow us to go on with the belief that we're straight. There are definite "stages of loss" that one goes through in processing any loss (in this case, loss of the idea one might be straight.) denial-anger-bargaining-grief-acceptance.

    So... it's very possible that you are simply bisexual. But it is also possible that you might be just coming to terms and convincing yourself that you're really straight. (For example: The "Well, I masturbate to thoughts of gay stuff and guys, but I am not attracted to them in real life" could be totally true, or could be "bargaining")

    And I think the answer to that will probably take some time to be clear, and require you to really think about how you react in real life. What happens if you look at guys in real life and allow yourself to consider that you might be attracted to them? Do you still get no response "down there"? If you're at the beach or somewhere where there are scantily-dressed people, do your eyes go only for the girls, or do they go for the guys as well?

    You'll probably have to test out some of these things and see where it leads.

    The last piece is... try and get to the place where you're OK with whatever the outcome is, whether it turns out you're gay, straight, or somewhere in between. It will be a lot easier to objectively look at yourself if you don't have strong attachment to being straight, but are truly OK with whatever you are. (I realize that's easier said than done.)
     
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    usually guys but I do masturbate to girls.. What I mean by that is that, well, you know that feeling you get when you are doing something that you know is weird or wrong and you get that excited feeling. I get that with gay porn. I can turn away from the computer screen and use that feeling to masturbate without so much as looking at them or thinking about them if you get what I'm saying.
     
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    OK, so what I think I hear you saying is, you can watch gay porn for a minute or two, not actually masturbate to it, but then go and masturbate, and fantasize about what you were just watching. That's a pretty clear indication that your masturbation fantasies -- which tend to be the most accurate indicator of your sexual orientation -- are heavily focused on guys.

    So, given that you've said that when you do masturbate and think about girls, it is typically less arousing than when you think about guys... that tends to indicate that your inherent, hardwired sexual attraction is more toward guys than it is toward girls.

    So if I were you, the next step might be to give yourself permission (and this isn't easy) to look at guys in school or at the beach or the mall or wherever, and feel if there's any arousal toward them. Could you imagine yourself masturbating to some guy in your school? Have you actually tried that?

    When you're 16, your dick will get hard to practically anything (and sometimes to nothing at all.) So I'd suggest that instead of relying on what gives you an erection, be more proactive and try thinking about real-life guys, rather than porn, and see what it's like masturbating to that... and then do the same with girls... and see where that takes you.
     
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    NOOOOOOO! That is the exact OPPOSITE of what I said! I said that I go to a gay porn and turn around and masturbate... NOT thinking sexually of men and NOT seeing even one glimpse of the porno. I get off to a kinda fun-taboo feeling of being on a gay porn site.

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    I have done that, too. Real life guys don't really do much for me, but certain girls do.

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    Yes, I have tried to see if I could start feeling attracted to real life guys, and it really didn't work.
     
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    I know exactly what you mean. It's that feeling you're doing something you're not supposed to do, something that's supposed to be unexciding, which is exactly what makes it exciding. I don't know how you can explain that to other peole, but yeah I really get what you mean.

    For me, though, it was the guys that did it as well (though only in porn, not in reallife), and that feeling you talk about slowly decreased and turned into just really liking what I saw. It might just be that that's what's gonna happen for you as well. That you thinking it's just that excited feeling of doing or thinking about something "wrong" is just an unconscious way of denying there's some actual attraction there, which was definitely the case for me.

    In any case I wouldn't worry about it too much, though; whatever gets you off. If there's something more there, I'm sure you'll find out eventually.
     
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    Well its just your hormones kicking cause your young. I think you'll know what you really like when you reach early or mid 20's...So just masturbate of what you think you like or experiment with both gender maybe that will tell what you really like.
     
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    care to intervene here?
     
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    c'mon
     
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    im waiting...
     
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    Yes, you're gay. ?
     
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    how?
     
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    A lot of people have given you their take on your situation. I don't know what you're "waiting" for. Everyone is right, that's a very young age to know exactly what your orientation is. For me, at 16, I knew deep down I was gay, but I clouded everything with denial. Only you can know for sure the level of denial you are living in. From what you are telling us, we assume you may be bisexual (Kinsey 3, if you want an exact answer). We offer suggestions, support, experience, knowledge, opinions, but we can't exactly nail it on the head as to what your sexuality is 100%. The information given is supposed to help you THINK. If you can't come to a conclusion on your own, you should find comfort in being unsure. Patience, maturity, emotional intelligence, acceptance, and respect for yourself is key here.

    With that being said, I have never heard of someone masturbating to the sound of gay porn. I believe that is the same as watching the porn. Okay, so now you say you have it on mute, and you don't take a glimpse at it somehow, even though you are operating the website. That is still getting off to gay porn, isn't it? I mean, you are on a gay porn site (although not with eyes/ears) masturbating. I think that indicates a level of homosexuality, but that's just my opinion. If you want an answer, I can give one to you, and you'll rebute with more of your ill-conceived logic - whatever. I think you are just waiting to hear what you want to hear, and at this point, I have no idea what that is.
     
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    You know, reading all those stories on how people found out they were gay was interesting. All of them said that they had no sexual interest in women, but I do. Now with the not watching porn, it's not really homosexual if you are not thinking about men, are not seeing men, and are not hearing them.

    PS: Did you read my posts above?
     
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    Please have some patience. We all have our own lives, and it can take time to see the thread or come up with a meaningful reply.

    No one can tell you if you are gay, straight, bisexual, or what ever only you can answer that. You are you young and there is plenty of time left. You are clearly curious, so why the need to rush it? My advice is always the same, just run with it an see what happens.
     
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    Yeah, I read your above posts and came to the same conclusions.

    Holding hands with a woman is not a sexual interest. Visiting gay porn websites and masturbating because it's taboo indicates a stronger sexual interest, but I'm not a doctor.

    I feel that when you re-post with arguments, that you're really only arguing with yourself. You're projecting the thoughts that should be happening inside your own head, but you're in denial of some kind (I don't know what, so don't ask). You're externalizing your doubt onto us, and we're just here to give you our support. I had a lot of issues growing up because I had no one to talk to. I was too scared to even think about visiting a site like EC; I would have never dreamed of doing so, because I didn't want any of this to be true. Pat yourself on the back for being proactive. I hope you find what you're looking for.