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Answering to homophobic jokes

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by Rice and Pepper, Jun 6, 2013.

  1. Rice and Pepper

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    Generally I get really annoyed by homophobic jokes, but usually I don't react. However, I have been having lately an urge to answer to those stupid jokes and I don't know how. I want my answers to be discrete but acute too.

    For example, a fellow EC member told me the following answers:
    "So when you are watching lesbian porn, don't you find that abnormal?"
    "The more homophobic you are, the more likely it is that you has suppressed homosexual desires"
    "Why do you care so much about what other people like? It indicates that you feel insecurity about your own sexuality, you know..."

    All these answers go straight to the point, but they are too offensive. They seem useful to me only in extreme cases. I'd like to say something milder. Then again, there is this kind of answer:

    "Over 1500 species perform homosexual deeds. But only one has homophobic behaviour. Isn't that abnormal?"

    which is a little too sophisticated, farfetched and not all that good.

    For example, I was in class yesterday. My hands are a bit too shaky and therefore I can never draw a straight line. So I always use a ruler, even for the smallest line. My friend was sitting next to me and he noticed that for the first time. He loves teasing me, so he started laughing and then he said "Haha! That is really gay!". :/

    So what should I have answered him? I don't want to be offensive, because he is my friend. He didn't have a bad intention and he didn't really hurt my feelings. But I feel I should have said something, because using the word gay that way is simply wrong. If he keeps on saying that, people will get used to it and the word gay will be perceived solely as an insult (and thus that there shouldn't be gay people etc). On the other hand, I haven't come out to him, nor do I plan to do so any time soon. So I want an answer that won't show that I feel personally insulted and bite back.

    How would you handle such situations?
     
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    Well at first i couldnt stand them at all!Like they were like ''Oh heeey manly man'' and laughs and giggles..for like 3 years?But now i feel like a rock and i dont even look at them,i just pretend they are simply not there.
     
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    "that's so gay!'

    'no, having a crush on [same-sex person] is gay'
     
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    I don't mind either. I mean, I can ignore them. But I don't want to. I feel like I have to stop somehow the rumor against gay people. Because when rumors say something and they go around for too long, some people start to believe the rumors. And in our case, that would be really bad. I don't want to insult the jerk, or make him understand his fault. I want to make him stop saying homophobic stupidities. Just that.
     
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    I don't mind them if I'm watching comedy. What I mind is when the joke in a social setting or work setting is sort of aimed at a person. That is harassment. And both are serious. The work place is more serious because it's easier to avoid a social group than it is coworkers.
     
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    I have the same problem. That bothers me but I'm not really offended. But I never know what to say.
     
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    I don't mind jokes but I try to speak up when I hear more serious forms of homophobia.
     
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    What offends me more is been called 'puff' or 'faggott' I detest been called them, I only like been called gay.:slight_smile:
     
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    I hate gay jokes too but I refrain from saying anything because I don't want to knock someone's lights out. The only exception is that I refuse to let people call me a faggot, even if they are joking. I am extremely sensitive to that word and will defend myself no matter what the reaction I get.
     
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    When it comes to me, in a new group, I try to find a way to make a bunch of things clear. 1. I'm gay. 2. I'm confident about it enough to joke about it. 3. I'm not looking to be judgmental.

    This past weekend, I took part in a music video shoot. It took place in a sex ed class, and in a joking way, the "instructor" had drawn stick figures in various sex positions on the blackboard. One of them just had two stick figures, arms outstretched, with added "sticks" for erect penises. The caption was "BOY ON BOY". When I saw that, I nodded my approval. "Good thing you're teaching this class. Not many people know that's how we have sex. We get undressed, get hard, and then stand next to each other with our arms outstretched." The group laughed, so I guess mission accomplished. :slight_smile:

    It's a bit different for me, since I'm already out to everybody. And I usually enjoy moving the joke along. So I might respond to that in any number of ways.

    "It kinda is. Maybe I should put it on my dating profile. 'Can't even draw a straight line without a ruler'."

    "I know. I feel like a Glee character."

    "What can I say? I left the straight life, and I REALLY don't want to go back. :slight_smile:"

    But if this friend doesn't know you're gay, and you don't want him to, it's hard to call him out on it without sounding overly defensive. You might simply shoot him a look, or say something simple like "You'll probably need more evidence than that", but it's probably best not to get too deep into it.

    Lex
     
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    I'm say, hate that word, I don't know why it does hurt me that comment.
     
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    I find it hard to be offended by that word, as I have been eating them for years, especially with Mash, Peas & Gravy :roflmao:
     

  13. Same here.
     
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    you could say "straighter than your line." but not all serious just laugh it up but if someone really offends you, then say something slightly more offensive but not to bad like once some one said 'you are such a lesbo, you drag her out of bed every morning.' so I just said 'yeah I turn my internet on.' cause well it's true but me and my friend say I drag her out of bed cause she gets the early bus to school with me so when ever that girl says anything that's along the lines of what I say, if you want subtle comebacks or whatever along that line you can ask me, I love using my brain (yeah... I'm weird...)
     
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    :icon_bigg ok maybe you do, but seriously when people say he's a puff or something it gets to me. I know some may not bother or be offended but I am.:eusa_naug
     
  16. My husband is straight, but he isn't what people would call a "manly man"

    He has had some of his co-workers try to make jokes about him and calling him gay and telling him to suck his...

    He just turns it around. Once he said, "Sure thing. I charge by the inch so you'll get a good price."
     
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    My friends and I regularly call each other poofs, faggots, and the like. A common phrase is "Wow, that was about the faggiest walk I've ever seen". And I think terms like "poofter" and "light in the loafers" and "friend of dorothy" are all hilarious.

    Likewise, I generally find gay jokes funny, and often share them myself.

    I think it all has to do with how comfortable you are with yourself. When you get to a place where you can laugh at yourself and at the stereotypes of your sexual orientation, you know that you've really gotten comfortable with who you are.
     
  18. Lamonia

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    Haha!

    That's kinda what I do, not as clever though, but I usually just say that yes I would love to jump you actually....I wouldn't say it burns them...or stops the jokes...but they definitely feel like ugh that wasn't the reaction I was going for....

    Makes me laugh....
     
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    Well I'm out to pretty much everyone and some one usually makes a joke each day so i usually just shrug it off or I'll be a smart ass and go damn right I would or eww not with him if they use someone else's name
     
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    I think gay jokes are alright, but homophobic jokes are not okay.

    Look, although they can be playful and ultimately non-offensive, they still perpetuate homophobic language.

    I used to enjoy racist jokes. Sometimes I told some, even though I knew I didn't mean it. However, I realized that just by considering it funny, it's a positive reinforcement of degrading a group of people. Now, I try not to laugh, and I try to explain why it's not acceptable to make these jokes (and I don't care if someone thinks I'm a weenie-butt for saying so).

    I'm trying to open up this anti-anti-queer perspective to my friends. Although it may take awhile for them to understand that continuing with this way of thinking is not right, I still think it's worth it. If us non-straight people want to be respected/treated as equals, then we should probably stand up for ourselves and educate others.


    I'm sure some people will disagree, but that's only my opinion.