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LGBT News Enigma codebreaker Alan Turing to be given posthumous pardon

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  1. Beware Of You

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    This is great news, but this should never have happened in the first place. Looks like they may have to give a pardon to EVERYONE who was convicted under "buggary" laws

    Enigma codebreaker Alan Turing to be given posthumous pardon | UK news | The Guardian
     
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    I don't know if this makes me happy or angry...I really don't

    We chemically castrated you...told you that you weren't worth anything to us and you took your life. So I hope we're all cool now

    no offense to anyone...but that's how it feels to me now

    Like a big Oops

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    The alternative is to not do anything, which would be worse.
     
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    I think they should all have one. I go to the same college as Oscar Wilde he had a similar fate, a great man ruined by these fowl laws, he is as deserving of a pardon as Turing isn't he.

    I get your point, its like saying "Oh sorry for killing him, I didn't know at the time it was wrong but I am sorry and we can now go on"
     
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    Shame it's taken so long though - it means that those who were convicted prior the decriminalisation (of homosexuality in England and Wales) and above the current age of consent are at least 62 years old - 67 if you take the original age of consent - that means that anyone convicted will have had the whole of there working life with a criminal record depriving them of employment opportunities and such like.

    With these posthumous pardons and delayed apologies (not just this but any of them - e.g. Gordon Brown apologising for the UK's role in sending tens of thousands of children to former colonies where they suffered terrible abuse) I'm always in two minds though - on the one hand it's making a clear statement that what we did in the past is no longer acceptable and won't be tolerated in the future and that as a civilised society we recognise that is something we no longer want our country associated with. On the other hand it's a hollow apology as the live(s) have already been ruined and the people who implemented such legislation are either long since dead or outside the sphere of influence.
     
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    This is great news & a triumph for campaigners like Stephen Hawking who have led this campaign, I am so pleased for Alan's Family, Oscar Wilde's Family & all the other Families of Men wrongly convicted under those Draconian Laws :slight_smile:

    It is just a shame that you can't be awarded a posthumous knighthood, that would have been great, but that is another ongoing Campaign that people are trying to bring about :slight_smile:
     
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    This is good to recognize how very wrong the laws were, but so very sad that it can't change all the torment the victims endured.
     
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