LGBT News Girl fights apple over "Definition of Gay"

Nope, not here. People mean the homosexual meaning of it, but not all of them are against, which makes no sense. Over here, anyway. I asked why myself, and they said because whatever they're talking about is as uncool or stupid as gay people. But I like the usage not to mean anything to do with homosexuality, as anyone here.

 

It's a bit amusing since "gay" used to mean "happy" or "jovial".

 

Words are important. I can assure you people don't disassociate names.

In the words of a comedian whose name I can't recall; "you should stop being so black about it and Jew off!"

 

Thank you, I totally agree.

 

People are going to use words the way they want, obviously.

The point is that "gay" as a synonym for stupid IS a homophobic slur, like it or not. Nothing wrong with entering it in a dictionary (since they are updated to reflect current usage of words, or new words) but it should be also noted for what it is.

Would you approve of, for example, a dictionary entry for the word "Bitch" with a definition of "Other word for woman" without a qualifier of "derogatory term used to refer to women" ? Same thing really...

 

I don't find that offensive. People that write dictionaries are generally of the understanding that they are making a record of the way that words are used, not how they should be used.

That was Simon Amstell on 'Never Mind the Buzzcocks' . I have the urge to repeat it on many occasions.

 

By not adding a "derogatory" comment, the Apple dictionary was normalizing, not disassociating its use.

I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree on this topic.

 

I'm fine with the definition. I think deragatory should be added to that definition though

 

Am I the only one who thought she was fighting with a literal apple at first?
Personally, I agree with Resu here. Hiding the truth is wrong in this case.
Besides, the word and its current connotation is still going to be used all across most of America. It's futile to try stopping it.

 

The problem is though, using it in that way is inherently offensive. It's like including an entry for "niggerish" meaning some negative attribute once used for black people now "dissociated" from them and moved into general use. Nuh uh, doesn't work like that. I'm using an imaginary example here, but if it were widely used, it just means everyone who uses it is a class-A dick. No amount of popularity makes a wrong choice into a right one.

 

Why can't they just add "slang" to it, or pull an "urban dictionary" kind of thing. That would save time, money, resources, and the sanity of people who have to keep seeing this stuff.

 

Really now, if people can't find other ways to express themselves without potentially horribly offending a minority group, i don't want anything to do with them. That's all on them.

 

yeah I'm going to have to go with this. I'm sorry, popular or not doesn't dissociate just because the user wants it too.

If I said the N-word and then said "no big deal, it just means ____ now. It's ok!"

Not how it works

Foxface

 

I vote we all start using apple when describing something stupid.

After all, if enough people use it, it becomes the actual definition of the word, right?

That's not apple at all.

 

well, i dont know... i have a lesbian friend and she sometimes says "that is so gay"...but also she says " im gay"...in one case gay means stupid in the other it means homosexual...there is something called 'context'....

is like the difference between "this is shit" vs "this is The shit"...or like when you say "i ate her"" you are not confessing you commited canibalism :lol:

.....buuuuuuuut.... still i think is good idea to never use 'that is so gay' with people you dont know, because even if you are not homophobic, and regardless of how you are using the word gay or how you think people should not get offended...some people are going to be offended so you shouldnt do it... i mean some times people with darker skin tone call me 'f*cking nigg* and because we are friend and i understand the context and know the person i wont get offended...but i would never call a random stranger 'f*ckng nigg*...

... or for example there are words in spanish with might be a perfectly normal word but in another spanish-speaking country the same word have a different meaning ...for example in my country 'coger' means 'to grab' or 'to ride' or 'to answer(the phone)while in argentina it means 'to fuck' so ' i answered the phone' might become 'i banged the phone' :lol:....so as much as 'coger' means to me 'to grab' i wont use it in the wrong place, cause i dont want to offend people/get misinterpratated.

the same happens with the word gay..you can use it, but be careful.