LGBT News Wisconsin senator wants conversion therapy ban for minors

Because religion has money and influence. That's why there's no ban and probably never will be.

 

Until more people see it as being as barbaric as shock therapy and lobotomies it will not be banned. Plus there are a lot of red state congress members elected with religious money.

 

so thankful to live in a blue state (!)

been through that and it is awful - it needs banning everywhere

 

Unfortunately Wisconsin currently isn't conducive to this type of legislation. Too many republicans.

 

With all due respect, shock therapy is neither barbaric nor immoral. It is quite effective against depression, is painless, and is about as dangerous as being put under anesthesia. It is a perfectly valid medical treatment, and it doesn't deserve to be used as an example of why something else is bad. To do so is incorrect, and puts a hole in your argument for your opponent to exploit.

 

shock therapy was used often to stop people from being homosexual often in the 40' & 50's

even into the 60's - I believe this is the reference, there are still places where we have forced sterilizations all the way up to I think past 2000

so we can speak to barbarism in this way

 

Like sldanlm mentioned, Freedom of Religion is not a legally accepted justification for child abuse or neglect. Some people believe that prayer works, but that medicine doesn't, but when this leads to children's deaths, the parents are charged with child abuse (or neglect, or something similar). Forcing a minor to go to conversion therapy is quite the same.

One does not have the legal right to fuck up one's child(ren), not even on religious grounds, so I think it is likely that we'll see this sort of ban approved in nearly all states, if not from the Federal level. Of course, they won't be banned quickly enough, and it will still go on under the radar, but I'm certain that it will be banned.

The problem is, because conversion therapy has strong and wealthy religious backers, it will go slowly; apparently preventing them from doing serious and possibly irreversible harm to their children is an assault on religious freedom.

 

Past wrongs in applying the treatment don't make it stop being an effective treatment. Calling it barbaric suggests it is, when the problem was not the treatment itself.

 

So right. :soapbox: Preach it! I think that conversion therapy shouldn't be outlawed but minors should have to give consent not just their parents.