General News US Employers win birth control case

Erm, you do know they weren't trying to control women's bodies, right?

It was that employers were forced to cover contraception on their medical coverage, if a woman requested it. Now it's no longer required, as such, thousands of women who had it will go without contraception if they can't afford it.

 

This thread is going to go south very quickly.

I don't think anybody should be required to offer free birth control. Why should tax money go to paying for someone's birth control? if someone wants to have sex then they can pay for it themselves.

 

Not everyone uses birth control for sex. In fact, half of the women who use birth control, if not more than, use it for other medical purposes. They can use it to control an unpredictable period, to control the cramps that come with the period, to regulate their hormones whether on their period or not, etc. There are many, many reasons why someone would need birth control for other than sex.

Birth control is very expensive even with affordable medical insurance and when birth control is needed for medical purposes, things become very difficult for the woman who needs it.

 

Because corporations having "religious freedom" and "corporate personhood" definitely can't go wrong!

 

As if we didn't know already that this is the most activist and partisan Supreme Court since Dred Scott. "Religious Freedom" only means that you have the right to choose your own religion, not force it on everyone else. In a different case decided today, with the majority opinion written by Samuel Alito, the Court essentially made Illinois a right-to-work state by ruling that public employees that don't join the union don't have to pay dues...even though they're bound by the same contracts as the union members are. But I digress.

What's important to note is that it doesn't apply to corporations as a whole, only ones with a few owners. The decision also claimed that the Obama administration had already devised a work-around so that the employees could get contraceptive coverage even if they work for an employer that has its head shoved up its ass on the birth control issue

My other thought is that you could issue an executive order saying the contraceptives have to be covered in a separate rider, which cannot cost more than $1 a year.

 

What it comes down to is that if it does not affect you than don't complain about it. I you decide to make a business and hire hundreds of employees than you really shouldn't have a choice in what is in your employee's health insurance and what it covers. It is pretty much forcing your personal beliefs on somebody you don't even know and I think hobby lobby will suffer a mass boycott and they will lose people's business. I may not personally with birth control or abortion either but i am certainly not gonna force that belief on people.

 

Although it isn't religious, one could definitely make an argument that a company shouldn't have to cover, say, cholesterol medication because you "chose to eat too many Big Macs."

That's what scares me. I don't see this ending.

 

Haha....

 

Well shit. So much for free contraception. What assholes.

 

If I took lithium, I could see them saying "We don't need to cover your mood stabilizing medication because you drink too much caffeine." :eusa_doh:

 

viagra can be covered by insurance.

 

I'm gonna have to support the ruling. Birth control is not a necessity, and if someone can't deal with pregnancy, they can abstain.

 

OH MY GOD... I'm SO glad someone mentioned this!

If tax dollars shouldn't go towards sex, then Viagra shouldn't be covered either.

 

Exactly what I've been thinking!

 

So a man who needs Viagra to get it up should be able to abstain too according to that logic. But Hobby Lobby has no qualms with it. Not to mention Hobby Lobby has money invested in Plan B and Ella for their retirement plans. This ruling opens way too many proverbial cans of worms to be a good ruling, even if you don't like the idea of someone taking birth control, using an IUD, or the morning after pill.

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Penis pumps are also covered by insurance providers.

 

There's a more complex issue here.

Companies can say they don't believe in X due to a religion, and due to the ruling, they can be excluded from having to supply it via insurance.

 

You're right, it shouldnt be for covered for ED. Although there are many other uses for the drug which are covered.

 

So how there are other uses to Plan B, Ella, and IUDs that have nothing to do with having sex, they should be covered too? Oops.

 

I never said that did I? I have a problem with tax money going towards paying for the pill because someone wants to have sex and not have to pay for birth control. Tired of the government forcing companies to give handouts.