LGBT News "No one is Born Gay" Billboard

Hmm what about gay twins... triplets.

Those guys should watch more gay porn it seems.

Seriously, if one of the twins claims it is choice then he can stop being gay right? Why he continue to be gay?

I think it is dumb. However world is full of dumb and under educated people... in sever cases both. So instead of searching the truths they just beileve what they hear or see big letters people stick into their eyes.

So that might be have negative effect on LGBT society of the area.

 

Ha. Clearly they don't understand the concept of epigenetics. Or the fact that concordance rates of sexuality are higher in identical twins.

But perhaps a better point to make is that even people did choose to be queer, what would be wrong with that?

 

They would go to old ways and mock even act voilently towards gay people as they would be seen as persons with lack of morals, outright sinners and got what's coming...

Then all their claims about being next to a pedophile, a man marrying with a goat all those negative idoicy will be justified in their eyes.

For you, me and everyone in here not much but you know we are minority. Like history, rules of society are written by victors/winners.

 

The truth has been spoken!
Why is people so ignorant? Homosexuality seems to be epigenic, not genetic it's a little big difference :bang:

BTW choice or not, I don't care, I don't hurt anybody so why anybody should judge and say me how to live my life?

 

Damn straight, I had to work hard to be as bisexual as I am.

 

If we bring up as yet unconfirmed and not terribly robust science about genetics and homosexuality, we will be standing on thin ice and falling into the trap of discussing homosexuality on their terms.

Comparing twins is pseudo-science and reminiscent of the fascination Nazi doctors had with doing experiments on them in the concentration camps.

They can't possibly know what it's like to be LGBT, so they can't understand that it is fundamental to our selves. Their entire argument rests on this being a lifestyle choice, and this billboard is yet another attempt to get people to believe that.

 

Let them. One day, we will be the victors, and those who seek to oppress us will fade away. We will not achieve this victory by telling people we can't help what we are, that we'd choose to be straight if we could. That only reinforces the things we hear all the time, that being straight is better. It implies being gay is a disease, and it would only lead them to try and find a biological cure to us. We won't win any true acceptance without fighting their true message, that being gay is wrong.

 

Sick and unscientific.

 

Even if I thought people chose to be gay, and I don't, I'd still think people should respect it as an awesome choice. It's not like being gay is only OK because people can't help it. I'm not saying people shouldn't make the argument that being gay isn't a choice. I'm just saying it's not the only argument to make. I've heard people in all seriousness say that it's fine to be gay but it's not OK to be bisexual because then you do have a choice, and that's screwed up.

 

Ha ha I love this side of you. You are passionate about things.

Being gay is wrong very mixed with it not being natural too. So much for years scientists over look gay animals/behavior in nature, dismissed it. Religions believe everything in nature created by God. By that everything in nature deemed natural/acceptable.

While I bow before your courage I understand we see things differently. Like Magneto and Prof. Xavier different if you get the meaning. Not all wars should be entered and won head on. Sometimes knowing waltzing on the field and finding a common ground is needed to prevent unneccessary casualties. Hate and anger usually result in the same. (Not implying you are hateful or something, just pointing way of things according to my experience)

 

Then no one is born straight either.:dry:

 

I honestly cannot state things any better than Great Whale and Hexagon have above. They echo my feelings on this exactly.

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By the way there is a funny twist to this story. (And probably the best person to refute it.)

Here it is from local media.

 

Nature is also irrelevant. The vast majority of what we do today is unnatural*, and plenty of things which are arguably natural, are most certainly immoral. If you need an example, I'd suggest rape, which can be observed in many other species, and predates technology and intelligence in humans. We can't argue on religious terms because religion has no place in determining morality for a general population that largely doesn't believe, or believes in other religions.

Anger, at least, can be used to inspire change. We are oppressed, and we face injustice, and the systems we could use to change this perpetuate this injustice. We must fight, or else we will continue to face this injustice. And we have no common ground with these people. They are not committed to scientific truth; they are committed to our oppression and destruction, and they're using this supposed science to further their aims. That means that no amount of arguing with their science is going to sway them, because they weren't convinced by it in the first place.

 

"People are born assholes"

 

I was thinking the same thing when I read the story.

From a scientific standpoint about identical twins being exactly the same genetically, they must be right. After all, everybody knows how identical twins have the exact same fingerprints for example. I'm surprised they didn't mention that on the billboard. (sarcasm mode now off)

Somehow I'm surprised that the pictures on the billboard are a fraud (not the person, he
didn't have control over how his pictures were misused.)



for some real science, see

UCSB Science Line sqtest

 

You are born gay, but it's only set from the age of six. But I don't think that's what it means.

 

Their full of trash thanks for the reas science

 

I've heard this argument time and time again with Homophobic Christians. Homophobia in Christianity, apparently, mainly, is derived from a passage in the bible claiming that men shouldn't lay with other men. What that has to do with whether or not a person can be born gay is beyond me. God is supposed to love all of his creations yet, he doesn't love his gay children? That doesn't make sense. If a person can't be born gay, then what about straight people? Surely, they were born that way?

While, I don't agree with their interpretation of their religion, I'm not in the least bit offended by it. They have the right to their beliefs and they believe that they are correct.