General News Racist fraternity video - Univ. of Oklahoma

Do I think this really solves systemic racism? No, of course not. However, as I've always said, racism, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia will never end until they are made unsafe. Taking such extreme action against students demonstrably involved is a very important step towards taking away their safety. This is a critical step forward.

Adrienne

 

Update: two students expelled. If only this would happen to rapists. Names unfortunately not released.

 

...but, but, but... Freedom of religion! Freedom of speech! Why aren't people more tolerant of different points of view!? :rolleyes:

In all seriousness, it is good to see there was swift action. Like Adrienne said, if only this were done for rapists and other types of bigots, the world would be a better place. This is how you solve social problems: by making clear social consequences to bad behavior.

This happened on Sunday, two have been expelled, the Chapter has been dissolved, they are required to have their fraternity house cleared out by this evening (Tuesday), and there is an ongoing investigation to identify others to face similar disciplinary consequences. Swift, decisive, clear, and unmistakably zero tolerance. This is how it should be done.

 

There was a black guy that post a funny video on this , and I must agree with him the song is catchy but racisit I actually caught myself singing yesterday.

Is it just me but as a black person I just think maybe we as black people should stop using the N word if we don't want others saying it .:dry:
Because now their thinking it's okay .
It's wrong what they did but we need to stop calling ourselves N words .
Anyway they can keep SAE all white I wouldn't want to be there anyway

 

Update: Parker Rice, one of two OU students expelled for their role in leading a racist chant, has issued an apology.

I'm not sure if I accept it though. I hate it when someone famous for whatever reason does something bad, and then issues an apology. Because they're forced to do it by pressure from the public, I don't feel it's sincere. Especially something serious like this.

 

I agree with this:eusa_clap

Wish that would happen instead of people using the excuse that their such gifted players or students.

 

This wasn't an isolated incident either. To claim that it was fueled by alcohol is ridiculous. There have been multiple witnesses who reported this chant in the past. You didn't slip up an use the wrong word to address a group. You didn't randomly say something that found its way onto social media. These individuals have been repeating a chant that, even aside from the slur, literally calls for the lynching of the members of a race.

Don't tell me that you are sorry for drunk driving and taking someone's life when it is something that you do every weekend. You don't suddenly get to care about the lives of other people when the spotlight is on you. The only people I feel sorry for are the potential the younger siblings of these individuals who might get dragged into this as well.

 

I don't know how prevalent this is, but there's a college in my state, Towson University, that actually had a Neo-Nazi group. People wanted the members to be expelled but the last I heard, no expulsions had been made.

I think that's absolutely frightening. University of Oklahoma needs to expel them. When it gets to the point where they're openly making threats, they need to be kicked out because, they're a danger to society. Hopefully, their names will be documented by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League.

 

I totally agree with all the sweeties here questioning the authenticity and sincerity of this apology.

I just wanted to add that I've been intoxicated on more than a few occasions, and I've always been anti-racist and feminist during those times.

 

He's not really sorry. He's just trying to save face now that he knows he's been caught. His lawyer or his family probably told him to say that.

 

I always find it interesting that in 2015 people can still be found saying or thinking stuff like this and presumably taking it serious... I guess since I'm white I cannot understand how bad this must feel for black people to hear that groups of people still... basically want them dead and don't treat them equal still. To me it's just really shocking and I feel like I'm transported back many decades... I guess it is Oklahoma...

It's good that their fraternity was disbanded (and they were hence kicked out), but in a way I don't get why they were expelled? Maybe I should read the article.

 

I think they were expelled for creating a hostile learning environment.

 

I'm glad the University shut the frat down, and expelled those members.

This came as no big surprise to me: Fraternities basically exist to perpetuate the status quo, to insure an insular, rich, white male elite.

I think such attitudes are quite common to fraternities; at least that was my experience when I was at Michigan State, maybe less so at U of Maryland, but then, I'm not a student there.

 

But it was, presumably, in private...

 

Not once it became public that they would sooner see black students hang from a tree than be in SAE.

The fact that these students are even at the university is a real problem. Prospective students and public figures have now decided not to associate with the University at all because of what this means for their student body. Obviously, there are many wonderful students at UO. But there are also students who want black people dead. And the fact is, SAE created a safe space for those racist students to operate. The other members and pledges of SAE allowed that to happen. They didn't challenge the culture. That means the perpetuated the culture.

 

Oklahoma lost a top football recruit over this. He's going to Alabama instead.

 

True. It likely translates to the environment of the fraternity, which is part of the university (I think? I don't know much about fraternities). Although this isn't conclusive evidence that it does. Although their views are dumb, they didn't say they were actually going to hang anybody.