LGBT News Nigel Farage wants to make religous exceptions

:facepalm: I'm so sick of this! I'm from a Muslim family and these type of attitudes make me feel sick to the stomach. I really can't wait until queer people are accepted by people of all different faiths/beliefs. People need to stop having a say in someone else's life if it doesn't affect them in any way.

 

When he was asked to give a specific example of what would constitute reasonable application of UKIP's conscience clause he flatly refused to answer and described it as a "tiddly little bit" of their manifesto and a distraction from the UK's bigger issues.

So there you have it folks, LGBT rights are not sufficiently important to Farage to provide a definitive answer. Furthermore, one of his UKIP cronies in the Yorkshire region didn't know what an LGBT person was.

 

Farage is a very clever politician, who knows exactly how far to go in making outrageous statements so as to motivate his core vote. I doubt he actually believes half of it himself.

 

Yes because all Christians and Muslims are homophobic and just waited for someone to defend their right to be so.-.-

Seriously?don't speak for people without asking what they actually want first.And don't generalize for groups that are that large.duh.

 

In a nice, left-wing country like the UK, how is an American-style Tea Partier taken seriously?

 

Unfortunately, our two main parties have become fixated with grabbing votes from the centre ground and it's left room for the more extremist elements, like UKIP to prosper. David Cameron doesn't think UKIP will win a seat in Thursday's election.. I think David Cameron is deluded.

 

For the same reason the Swedish Democrats - a party founded on right-wing populism, anti-immigration, nationalism and opposes the 'Homosex Lobby' - manages to get 13% of the vote in Sweden, despite Sweden being a very left-leaning country.

Voter disillusion with the main parties partly contributes - but most people here live under the belief that immigration is 'out of control' and needs to be curtailed - so that's another reason why more people are opting to vote for UKIP - and also contributes to the rise of the far-right throughout Europe - whether it's the Front National in France, True Finns in Finland, Party for Freedom in the Netherlands or the Danish People's Party in Denmark.

 

It's been well-documented that there are several areas in the UK where Muslims patrol the area and enforce Sharia law. It may be harassing those who "appear to be homosexual" or women wearing short skirts. I can completely understand how people would be against immigration there. Doesn't mean I would vote for Farage if I lived there though.

 

No Go Zones are fake. snopes.com: Sharia Law Muslim 'No-Go' Zones

Anyways, it must be a cold, cold day in hell when Nigel Farage tries to pander to the Muslim vote. I honestly don't think UKIP will win a seat, although I do think Labour and the Lib Dems will make a coalition majority.

 

Nope. This goes on in a lot of areas.

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David Cameron himself laughed at that quote from none other than right-wing fanatic Bryan Fischer, who works for the AFA. He was also the one that said Muslims in Dearborn had taken over the entire state of Michigan.

 

I never said it went on in Dearborn. It does go on elsewhere in the world though.

 

They are not non-Muslim 'no-go' areas - and they do not run amok enforcing their own version of the law. What they are doing is considered harassment, in some cases it can be considered assault, a violent crime, and they don't get away with it. Plus, it is not going on in 'a lot' of areas - I've certainly never seen it, and I spend a lot of time in Muslim-majority areas.

It's just another case of the right-wing press blowing something minor completely out of proportion.

Anyway, as for UKIP winning seats - I actually think they will, but 3 or 4 at most. I think a Labour-SNP coalition is more likely than a Labour-Lib Dem coalition. I'm not a fan of the SNP but I'd probably support it if it means Ed Milliband is our Prime Minster for the next 5 years. I've heard some people talking about a Tory-Lib-DUP-UKIP coalition - what a horrendous thought.

One positive out of all of this though is that it should give our political system the shake up it so desperately needs. For once we're talking about a large range of parties actively involved in government, rather than just two or three. All political parties bar two in the UK support Proportional Representation in favour of FPTP - only the Tories and the BNP oppose.

 

This.

Every single time a pundit or politico makes a claim about no go zones being in force in Britain it makes the news over here, and we all come together in the spirit of Saint David of Cameron's Big Society so that we can point and laugh at how stupid they are.

We do have the odd problem with Sharia patrols, but these end with the perpetrators having their collars felt. This no go zone myth is just something right wingers in the States have created to scare people who don't know any better while further demonising Muslims.

When Boris Johnson calls you out on your idiocy - “Complete nonsense”: London mayor slams Bobby Jindal’s Islamophobic “no-go zones” claim - Salon.com - that's when it's time to stop.

EDIT: And as for Farage's "idea", it's not going to happen unless we end up with a DUP/UKIP government. No mainstream political party in this country is going to sign up for legalised discrimination whether it be in majority government or coalition. I think even the Conservatives that want the party to be the nasty party/Diet UKIP again realise just how poisonous it would be. I think Farage is looking for a significant social conservative block vote that's just not there though.

I don't think it'll lose him votes (it's gotten barely any attention outside of Pink News et al from what I can tell), but it's not a vote winner either.

 

was Fischer the guy who said there's an ISIS camp in Texas or am I confusing him with someone else

 

I won't be surprised if the clown becomes PM of the UK some day. Probably not tomorrow but in say 10 years or so. Either him or Paul Nut-tall.

 

Not possible

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When I lived in the US, I got fed up with Americans telling me that Europe in general, and the UK in particular, were over run with Muslims, and they would be in control soon. When I said that that didn't coincide with my experience, I would often as not be told that I must be mistaken. Of course, being British, and living in Britain all my life pretty much, how could I possibly know Britain as well as an American who had never left the States?