LGBT News SCOTUS Decision and Christian "Persecution"

I have no idea why Christians cry persecution when their religion is a driving force in this country that protests them from harassment, unlike most of us, who get screwed and thrown under the bus. If they don't like marriage equality, then they shouldn't marry someone of the same gender. Saying I shouldn't marry my partner because their religion says so is telling someone they can't eat a donut because you're on a diet.

 

I've said this before, but I still don't understand how the religious right can be both a moral majority and a persecuted minority at the same time.

 

They are getting persecuted, and it's a good thing.

 

The sad thing about so called Christians in the US and Canada that claim persecution simply because they can't force their beliefs onto others is that they aren't concentrating on the places in the world where Christians (and others) are truly being persecuted for their beliefs by groups like ISIS.

 

These people think they're so clever. "By not letting me take alway other people's rights, you're taking away my rights". They look at that and think they're clever when in reality they're just being a douchebag.

 

But as persecution and repression are generally defined as the mistreatment of and injustice toward a particular group, it doesn't even qualify for that. It's certainly a curtailment of their unbalanced and relatively unchecked freedom to act as they will, but I don't believe that persecution can ever be just and I would say that this is not an example of it at all.

 

It's a bit rich of them to be moaning about persecution considering the injustices and persecution they've inflicted on minorities through the years.

 

My favorite Bible story has always been:


Jesus and The Super Mega Hateful Day

Jesus had been traveling many days. He stopped at a small village, which was burdened with blindness, poverty, and two guys named Adam and Steve -- who live together. The blind man could not see Jesus, but could feel the power of the Son of God. The blind man knelt before Christ and said, "Cure me, oh Glorious Shepherd!"

But Jesus said: "Get a job, you bum."

A woman in tattered garb and two children approached. Kneeling before Jesus, she too asked for something. She dared ask for just a single piece, so that her youngest may live another week.

But Jesus said: "Get expensive-and-limited-American healthcare, you bum."

Finally, Adam and Steve approached, hand in hand. The two bent their knees to Christ, but were silent. Jesus was puzzled, though this would not last for long. "We just wanted to say thank you, Lord" , chimed Steve, "for providing substance to our lives."

But Jesus said: "Y'all still can't get married."




Not a real Bible story, but some folks would probably love for it to be. Those are the types that are most whiny about this, right now.

 

Christion persecution is a delusion in some respects. What does not affect you or what other people do in their lives is not gonna send you to hell. Let people live their lives in the pursuit of happiness and you will realize it has no real affect on you. Their relationship with God is their business and your relationship with God is your business. God is not gonna send you to hell for what other people do or what your government does. Of course i could say being gay is not as sin but that won't be something for them to comprehend. Christian persecution is very real though in many places throughout the world but here in the US for the most part your not being murdered, killed or being discriminated against for being a christian. A believe a church has the right to refuse gay weddings or a place has the right to not participate in a gay wedding. It is not fair and it suck but for me it is a healthier way to get them to change their stance in the future.

 

Can I use this? 'Cause it's really really good!

Also, on Canadian hate speech laws. Well, tbh, I didn't really know we had them and I do still go to church often when I'm home. My dad's church is not pro-gay, and they have sermons on that. My dad did a bible study at another church too, on the world turning to sin and gay rights movement blah blah blah. So yeah, not much of an affect on the misled God-fearing group, except of course they can't be the WBC.

 

Hmm, I quite agree with this statement. Well said.

 

You did it again Kaiser. :icon_bigg The humor in this story is obvious, but it has a strong point.

 

I second this. But keep in mind that people are entitled to their personal views and it's not appropriate to force your opinion on them either. Acceptance is a complicated and often slow process.

 

Whatever. They are suffering, and their suffering produces a lot of goodness and warmth in the world.

 

Holy shit, I love you.
I've been trying to find a way to say this properly for ages.

If only more people in my area had working brains, I'd show them this.

 

Help, I'm being persecuted for persecuting.

 

This is not religion, it is racism...

I would argue race is based in genetic traits and LGBT is in the genes. Hence it is racial discrimination and no state, city or town engaged in racial discrimination should receive federal funds and public teaching that gays are bad (racism) should not be allowed beyond closed church doors.

It appears to be fertile ground for law suits against the municipality, and the perpetrator personally with broader implications.

Your father is correct. He is a racist and if he engages in public hate speech should be punished. Just like clerk"s refusing to issue same sex marriage licenses.