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LGBT News Artist Banned From the UK For Homophobic Lyrics

Discussion in 'Current Events, World News, & LGBT News' started by Foz, Aug 27, 2015.

  1. Foz

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    They can do that there?
     
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    Yeah! Stay outta my country!

    I'm confused why this is 5 years after the songs that contain homophobic lyrics (the word faggot used on an average of 14 times per song on one album) were released and why this wasn't done at the time... Well at least it's done now... I just feel sorry for americans because you have to spend even more time with him in your country.
     
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    No, tyler is a wonderful lyricist, I love him. You dont understand his artistic vision
     
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    That's stupid.

    I don't really like Tyler the Creator, I thought he was average at best but..

    1.) Banning him from a country for what he says is just ignorant at best.

    2.) IF those lyrics are 5 years old is the UK going to ban people who wrote homophobic lyrics 15 years ago, or 30. What about 50?
     
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    He dances on a very thin line with his lyrics. He's not bad with constructing them. He is bad, however, about distinguishing sarcasm and belief, which is where a lot of the problem is.

    Would Tyler shake a fan's hand who took his lyrics too far?
    I don't know Mr. Creator (ego much?). Social media and his music is all there is for me to go off of.

    Surely an audience of some type is possible? It isn't too much to believe somebody capable of change, is it?

    It probably also helps to remember, much of Lord Creator (LOL, I'm having too much fun with this...)'s content is to be taken in a satirical manner. Satire is the world's central nerve, and satire is not for everybody to balance.

    What say you, Grandmaster Fozzizle?
     
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    You know, we don't let people spout hatred and claim "free speech", we are a developed nation after all.
     
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    Banned WBC too, banned 'em like a boss!
     
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    It sounds like they banned him for generally being controversial rather than just singing homophobic lyrics as the title says. I was gonna say if thats the case then they could ban nearly the entire rap/hip hop community on those grounds.
     
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    Never heard of him. Couldn't care less.

    And yeah, a lot of people get banned from coming here. Some famous pick up artist was banned - after a petition reached 150,000 signatures. We don't want your morons over here - that's why we banned the WBC.
     
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    I don't know who this artist is, but banning him for what he's saying on a song is an attack on free speech. Of course the Home Secretary has the right/legitimacy to do it, but still, that's a decision that could strenghten censorship, be it ''hate speech'' or not.
     
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    I don't see that he actually would need to be in the UK. If the UK chooses to exercise control over its borders in this way, deeming him an unwanted disruption, then that's perfectly acceptable to me.

    Enforcing exile and denying asylum are rightly illegal. Refusing to grant access (be it by denying a visa or outright banning someone) is not illegal and in many cases, such as this one, it isn't very compelling to say rights have been breached when he is still free to produce music and live safely elsewhere.

    The Ai Weiwei situation, in which the Chinese artist was refused a visa because the Chinese government dislike his democratic and liberal beliefs and works, was a different matter under the same principle of Britain's control over its own borders, though, so perhaps a clearer definition of what is and isn't an acceptable ban should be made.
     
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    I'm not really shocked and it isn't a rights violation really.

    I mean the whole world isn't America. We have different rules than the UK.

    Hell if I were famous I'd probably be the first bisexual they banned from the contry for homophobia because I'm not afraid of and won't hold back on using the word Faggot when it suits whatever I'm trying to get across.

    I am curious though...have they banned eminem from the UK?

    I mean the stuff he says is way worse than anything Tyler the egomaniac has ever said.
     
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    I'm not entirely sure how the rules work in the UK, but I believe it to be unnecessary censorship. I mean, do you really need to ban someone from your country just because they say something you don't like? And I'm sure tons of other "artists" use misognystic and homophobic lyrics, so where do we draw the line?
     
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    Lmfao I wouldnt be suprised if Tyler isn't straight and besides wolf gang has a lesbian in it and you cant take anything he says seriously...its a slippery slope to go down
     
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    I don't reguarly listen to this guy, but he never struck me as a homophobe in the slightest.

    I think too many people have forgotten that there is a thing call "Context" and they just search for certain "Trigger phrases" without actually analyizing the words for meaning or purpose.
     
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    I'd have banned him from performing for me just by naming himself as he has. Most big-time music people like him are insufferable. >.<
     
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    Yeah he uses irony and sarcasm about 98% of the time lol and he goes for alot of shock value
     
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    I'm not saying this applies to the artist in the OP, I do support barring foreign people who have pubicly expressed forms of hate speech, whether through song or other methods.
    Again, don't know if that's the case with the artist in the OP, if not I don't see why he'd be banned.