General News The Global Goals

Protect the planet is #13? Lol at humanity, always putting itself before anything else. That's why we'll go extinct and all of our achievments will amount to nothing

 

Well, duh - very few people are truly willing to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the planet. I doubt you would either.

None of them will be achieved worldwide by 2030. I doubt any of them will ever be achieved.

 

Actually theres a good chance I'd sacrifice myself if it accomplished something but I'm not sure how any sacrifice that I can make would help the planet in the long term. If I find something I'll get back to you on that

I'm agree that all these goals will fail, but we have to try. If nothing else maybe development in science/technology may compensate for some of the failure.

 

*Yawns* I've read about these sustainable development goals. The goals are so repetitive anyways. Half the goals literally mean the same thing.

Though most of them I think are suppose to be unrealistic anyway. But hey at least they have goals. *spits*

 

These goals look pretty on paper but their underlying public deceit is fairly repugnant. They are there to quite those who scream 'Change!'. To maintain the status quo is their main focus. And they will not even be achieved within the framework of the status quo. Few truly believe it will. But if the masses can kinda sorta believe it, then they are less likely to stand up and be counted.

Plus even the goals themselves are kind of crappy. I mean, economic equality/equity isn't on there at all. I wonder why that is? Could it be because they are 100% on board with the current on-going shift in the way we do economics politically, that is, letting capitalism run wild, which is obviously going to lead to the rich getting proportionately richer off of the hard labor of the masses? Yes, it could.

 

I love how "Partnerships for the Goals" is so far in the back.

This is definitely designed to succeed...

 

I'm not interested in creating or participating in a socialist system, nor are many others. So instead, I have personal goals to become wealthy and philanthropic. Individualism ftw

 

For many developing nations, it's rather justifiably electorally impossible to put more effort into climate change and sustainability (not that these are being totally thrown by the wayside) than in having adequate food, education and health for the majority of people. That it's 13th on the list doesn't mean it's being ignored. We will have to wait for the Paris Conference to see what will be done about that, but it's not exactly appealing to many countries to save the trees before giving their citizens life-saving health and sanitation, especially when they're not mutually exclusive.

It's noted that inequalities must be reduced and many of the goals in providing food, eliminating poverty, increasing access to jobs, economic prosperity, health and education among others do address economic inequality.

When Dag Hammarskjöld said "the UN was not created in order to bring us to heaven, but in order to save us from hell", he was referring to things like this. It won't solve the world's problems, but it does provide one of the best ways to internationalise the efforts to improve the lives of individuals, the prosperity of communities and the security of nations and the world. The goals are rarely fully reached, but that they are attempted is a big step in the right direction every time the UN creates goals like these. The MDGs worked wonders in increasing access to primary and secondary education, reduced poverty enormously and have helped the world reach a much more prosperous state than it was in the late 1990s. The SDGs will continue that effort, in my opinion quite effectively.

I have faith in the UN and I don't see failing to achieve the goals as specified as a total or even a particularly bad failure, if we are to compare it to the alternative of having no goals.

Again, it's understood that partnership is needed and the goals themselves are naturally going to take precedence before the manner to achieve them. But remember that there is already a large group of bodies with a lot of resources and global support, within the UN and without, committed to accomplishing the development encouraged by the SDGs, so it's not like global cooperation is being tossed aside.

None of these goals can be achieved alone, but that we've already come to this agreement and updated much of the efforts of the MDGs is already really a proof of an international commitment to these goals and I think it's really commendable. We can't be individualistic in these efforts and the UN exists to recognise that. I don't think we're really seeing an indication of massive disunity by placing the (already existing) idea of cooperation to 17th place, which is still quite a high priority given that these sorts of goals are very well respected.

 

*shrug* If people are doing something good thanks to those goals, that is good enough. Much better than just being there and doing nothing.

 

I think the planet is perfectly capable of fixing itself. One day we'll all disappear just like the dinosaurs. We aren't the first overly dominant specie and definitely won't be the last.

 

It is, but it will kill off human civilization first if left unchecked. So apathy in the face of this enormous threat is very harmful.

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How? Where? I want it as a seperate piece, a seperate goal; 'economic equality/equity'. Because we are not going toward equity at the moment. Indeed, our "job creation" is to a large extent just neo-liberalism, which leads to further economic inequality by default.

 

Yes, that's what I said. We aren't the first, it's selfish to say that. The dodo became extinct before we did, polar bears, tigers and pandas will probably be next. we are in that line somewhere even if we decide to turn it all around.
A dutch musician once sang, "in one hundred years, we'll all be dead"
You should embrace the fact we're all dying, it brings new meaning to our existence. maybe one day snakes will grow appendages and dig up the remains of what used to be us. They'll study Humanotology like we study Palaeontology.

:eusa_danc

 

#10. "Reduced inequalities"

Which I think should be "No inequalities", but for right now, I like it where it is. I notice gender equality is a separate piece, but that might be because it's currently a hot topic.

Does nobody see that all these are priority 1?