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General News Anonymous Declares War on ISIS

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  1. RawringSnake

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    Anonymous hackers' group declares war on ISIS - CBS News

    (Sorry for sending you to such an awfully designed site as CBS, here's a transcript):

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    Honestly, I have a hard time taking this seriously right now
     
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    I get you. I'm sitting here trying to think of how substantial their contribution against ISIS could be and all I keep coming up with is "not a lot."

    Sooo you took down 3,800 pro-ISIS Twitter accounts. Ok? I mean, it's great that they are pitching in at all, but I don't think that's the most outstanding example on how to make a difference. (Please don't dox me)
     
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    Keep in mind that Anonymous can do a lot more than simply hack into Twitter accounts... for all we know, they can get some seriously classified information from them.
     
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    We should be accepting all the help that we can get. isis is the enemy of humanity and as such should get the living shit kicked out of them from every direction at once, in as many different ways as possible.
     
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    Yeah, ultimately I agree. Whatever help we can get in getting rid of the Islamic Estate is welcomed, I'm just not sure what exactly is there for them to do. Take the twitter accounts, for instance. Do you think intelligence agencies didn't already have these accounts flagged? I don't. The noble hacker narrative is compelling when they are trying to uncover stuff the government is trying to keep from the public, but when they share a goal with said government, what is there for them to do? They don't have the resources, nor the manpower, nor the reach, nor the means to enact action like an intelligence agency does so... What are we doing here? What is their edge? What do they bring to the table that we don't already have?
     
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    Taking down Twitter and other social media accounts is actually a really important part of combating ISIL recruitment. A ridiculous number of recruited ISIL members, especially from outside Iraq and Syria, are recruited via social media.

    Though taking down the accounts isn't enough; Anonymous needs to cooperate with authorities and hand over information of account owners to national governments to deal with any important information/prosecute.

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    Governments have massive blindspots from time to time and often don't have authorisation for a lot of more intrusive things Anonymous might do, but I think you are right. Unless they fully cooperate with intelligence agencies (or maybe did something more productive like a actually work for them or for companies like Twitter), they're mostly trimming the edges. They could even be disruptive to intelligence agencies if they try to do too much, which is generally not a great thing.
     
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    They could
    Freeze bank accounts
    Hack and lock up all devices used by the terrorists.
    Lead the terrorists into traps with Google replaced with a hacked version.

    Just some ideas.

    And they should turn themselves in and tell our government that they could help fight using technology as their weapons.
     
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    Yup, you pretty much summed what I was thinking. The biggest advantage I can think of is that they don't deal with bureaucracy and thus are able to operate unencumbered. They don't answer to anyone, but that could also be their downfall. I fear that without some semblance of a framework they could end up getting in the way of intelligence agencies, doing more harm than good. Open cooperation between the two would be ideal, but I'm not sure if they would be willing to swallow their egos for the common good and work with the organisations they are usually trying to antagonize.

    Yeeeaaaaaah, I don't see that happening lol, not in the US at least. And I honestly can't blame them. In a post-Snowden world, the government would rather see them pay for their past crimes than risk them going rogue on the field. They are both too wary of each other to cooperate in such an unabashed manner, and rightfully so.
     
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    Pretty much this ^. Anything will help. At least they are trying to do something while so many people are just lost and have no idea when or where these Isis people are going to strike next
     
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    This. Anonymous has accomplished some really big things when people didn't think they could, we should be thankful for their help and appreciate any aid they can give.
     
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    Let's not underestimate Anonymous.
    They have wreaked a lot of havoc, brought down child pornography websites, targeted Israel, carried out Ddos attacks on many organizations.
    IS is a shame to humanity and must be wiped off. And any help, ANY help must be appreciated.
     
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    They're a vigilante type of group, so I can't always support what they do, but in this case I applaud their efforts. They're actually very powerful and can disrupt a lot of ISIS plans. Go get 'em Anonymous!
     
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    Annonymous do w/e they want to whom they want based on their own agenda or how they woke up that morning, they are cyber-terrorists.
    ISIS are 'physical' terrorists.
    so ... terrorists vs terrorists, no matter who would 'win' this fight to me :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

    I do agree they can do damage to ISIS though, but lets remember america and europe are not newbies when it comes to cyber wars (i think USA even did the most advanced virus, Stuxnet).
     
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    Well, I feel like they could potentially do a lot. Surely ISIS uses modern technology for communication. I've been quite busy lately so I have not been following the news but I watched a bit today and (not shockingly at all), the people attacking Paris used cell phones to coordinate when to begin. If anonymous can intercept their communication or wreck their technology, that would likely hurt them quite a bit and could prevent attacks or release information about ISIS.

    However, it would be interesting if anonymous could actually do more than the world governments already do. I'm assuming/hoping top talent would be recruited by the government to fight ISIS in the technology sphere. As someone mentioned, maybe anonymous would be more effective since they don't have to follow any procedures or regard ethics. But, I'm not so sure the US does this anyways......

    I guess we will see.
     
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    I support Anonymous completely.
    They've done a lot of good and despite being kicked down numerous times they still lurk in the background, always observing.
     
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    Apart from that one time they sent flashing gifs to epileptic people, yeah. Same. I hope they can do some good here, as they have done in so many other places.
     
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    What I would ultimately like to see is Anonymous creating a searchable database of everyone who has shown support for ISIS or other terrorist groups, or has in some way involved themselves with the network. Make that information public, similar to the sex offender registry, and allow people to search for that information based on geography. Let all their personal information be made public.

    The downside to this is that inevitably some innocent people are going to be added to the list. The upside to this is that it makes it harder for ISIS to recruit and work as openly online without having interested people exposed. Once people are exposed it becomes harder for them to carry out terrorist activities because their cover will be blown. Local journalists, local law enforcement, and others will inevitably investigate.

    Maybe some type of verification system could be added to the database, where people can be marked as verified vs unverified. Local media and law enforcement will inevitably investigate, and if someone is caught by local law enforcement or exposed in the media, then they can be marked as verified.

    Basically, the goal would be to harass them, and make their online operations more difficult if not impossible.
     
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    I wouldn't say Anonymous are terrorists. True, they're unpredictable vigilantes, but so is Batman :slight_smile: mostly Anonymous are fighting for human rights and free speech- they're activists, but not terrorists.

    Edit:

    I don't think they ever proven that was them?
     
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    ter·ror·ism
    ˈterəˌrizəm/
    noun
    noun: terrorism

    the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.


    by definition they are terrorists, even if cyber :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: (some moves i agree with them and some i dont, thing is they write their own agenda who says next thing wouldnt be against something YOU believe in?)

    but hey, im the kind of guy that dont trust Google as well so let alone anon :grin: