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General News British government vs. Anal Sex

Discussion in 'Current Events, World News, & LGBT News' started by Simple Thoughts, Apr 13, 2016.

  1. Simple Thoughts

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QkzU1eyMPk

    I found this story interesting, and I couldn't agree more with what Kyle says here about how it's not really the government's business what people do in the bedroom.

    It's crazy the things people get worked up over, and honestly instead of getting all up in arms about this sort of thing it seems like it'd be better to just work towards better sex education and helping young people understand the risks and best ways to protect themselves.


    Side note: I got in a frustrating, but hilarious argument about this earlier.
     
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    I know the article is about Britain, but I've posted this bumper sticker before and I feel it's more relevant sometimes than it needs to be:

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    It really isn't the government's business what goes on in the bedroom, provided that no one is being abused. Anal sex prohibitions seem so draconian and Puritan, I had no idea Britain had issues with this. Then again, they are the ones who persecuted Alan Turing for his homosexuality after he helped them win WWII.
     
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    Yeah apparently they have some kind of issue with porn, and this is just another way for them to go after pornography.

    I don't really get it at all.

    Even if it's health concerns than really the answer should just be education. When people are informed they make better decisions.
     
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    The UK has long been really, really weird about porn. Prior to around 1998 or so, you could not even show a naked man with an erection, period. It had to be flaccid, or it would not pass this Royal Censorship Board; this was when much porn was still in magazines. I recall the law only changed when the conservatives lost power.

    Then again, even in the US, all porn was illegal prior to about 1974, and that really is not all that long ago, and the laws are still vague enough that with conservatives taking power, you could begin to see more and more censorship here.

    I think you get more of it in the UK, because so far as I know, they don't have nearly as strong freedom of speech laws embodied in their 'constitution', and cases relating to them.

    Australia is also very, very conservative and nutty about these things...
     
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    It's so weird and interesting. You'd think people would have better things to deal with and worry about.
     
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    Establishing moral superiority feeds their egos, so really there is nothing better or more important.

    But really, it exposes them as petty and myopic legislators.
     
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    I know right?

    Seriously though I got into an argument when I shared this on a chat earlier and the other person was talking about how anal sex is dangerous because STD's and that there is no safe way to have anal sex ever before totally devolving to saying 'Waste hole' a bunch of times and it was kinda funny, but stupid X3

    "You are going in a waste hole, I shouldn't even have to argue it !
    WASTE
    HOLE"
     
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    Okay I know this sounds so unholy but isn't it against the law for girls to cum in English porn?
     
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    It wouldn't shock me.
     
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    Incredibly stupid. Safer sex practices work.

    People are not going to stop having anal sex, and nor should they. They should be careful and respectful when they do.
     
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    I couldn't agree more.


    Try explaining that to people though, it's a headache.

    I made that exact same argument and they countered with...

    " You're basically saying "Don't do anything about it because there's few ways a certain group can do sex and it will make them feel bad"
    Sorry but it's not all "Hysteria" why some people can't donate blood, you have casual anal sex you're more likely to get an STD, and Shigella, and that could kill someone and it's not easily testable early on"


    Note how their counter has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made. In their mind it relates I guess, but it literally came out of nowhere in reality.
     
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    I don't argue my humanity to people. I'm content to let them know we are mortal enemies.

    Unfortunately, I'm not the best of advocates because I don't have emotional investment in being able to donate blood. Apparently, having taken it in the ass, I can't donate blood anyway. I don't even view that as a loss. Nevertheless, I understand why gay and bisexual men care. The blood donation ban is really a proxy for saying that gay and bisexual men are bearers of disease. It contributes to hatred of gay and bisexual men. So on that basis, sure, it should be argued against. I'm just not terribly interested.

    One, they have to test all the blood anyway. Two, people can lie on questionnaires. Three, there's no point in banning someone who used a barrier. There was even a study done on serodiscordant couples, and when safer sex practices were consistently used, the seroconversion rate was extremely low. So there is, to my understanding, little scientific basis to make the argument for banning gay and bisexual men from donating blood unless the idea is "I don't like fags and teh butt seks iz icky!"

    The stupidity only becomes more difficult to comprehend as the arrow of time travels...

    ~ Adrienne
     
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    Well the funny thing is we weren't even talking about gay sex at all. The conversation was about straight couples and anal ( You saw the video I posted above ) that's what this whole exchange was based on. They just sorta decided it was about that with this random out of nowhere reply.

    I was honestly struggling to make sense of anything they said and eventually I just gave up because it was a struggle to even keep them on one consistent topic for more than 20 seconds.


    Oh and to your first comment: You know me? I love arguing with people so it's not a burden to me much getting into spats like this.
     
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    Guys why can't we just be friends?
     
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    People get too hung up in 'us' 'them' mindsets and can't see past their own prejudice
     
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    The thing is, these people will always be reductionist. As we know, anal sex is becoming more common in the straight world... But as soon as we talk about doing it in the butt, "it's all just gay" to them.

    I do, but I believe in certain limits about what reasonable people can disagree on.
     
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    Yeah I bailed eventually because I was tired of their crap. At least when you and I argued you had a consistent point that you stuck to. I wasn't running in circles chasing whatever random off topic thing you decided to spout about next. It was a fairly rational exchange. Though sadly we can't have those anymore.


    I don't believe that personally, but we can leave it at that. Agree to disagree :slight_smile:
     
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    Alright you two that's enough arguing for tonight! Now go to bed!
     
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    In any case, I think it was like 2014 or something like that... the UK banned some list of sex acts in porn. I don't think the object was really to make porn safer, or educate the public about consent, or improve life for sex workers. The object with these kinds of scare tactics is always to centralize power in the state and to scapegoat minorities...

    I mean, it's good to ban female ejaculation right? That shit can rip off limbs!

    Sure, Mom.
     
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    Sounds about right.

    I know I remember hearing about the Brittish government going after porn in the past. It's easier there because they don't have as strong of free speech laws as the U.S does. Which is lucky for us because the conservatives would've done away with a lot of rights in a heartbeat if it wasn't for the pesky constitution lol