"The Gay Kingdom" Tyra Banks 04/27/09

I just watched it. I don't like that they did it with only a few people, because it boiled down to ideas coming from the individual and not the label that individual was given. But the ideas from the feminine gay man were made to look like ideas from all feminine gay men. And as a more feminine gay man, I totally disagreed with most of the things he said, especially his attitude towards bisexuality.

 

I'm disgusted by how biphobic the vast majority of them were. I really can't stand that attitude that "you're confused" and that they should "just pick a side", yet almost all the gay people there took that attitude with Jasen. Very sad to see that position being held so strongly, but unfortunately it seems to be way too common.

Kayden and Michael annoyed the crap out of me. Both of them were incredibly arrogant, and to be honest they both seemed to act very much like they were adopting straight privilege because they can easily pass in the straight world.

 

lag much?

but yeah, I am a little shocked at how biphobic they are.

however, I can also see why. I don't really understand being bi. I don't understand how you can like both a man and woman ang get married

and as many may know, anything we don't understand, we don't like. which is one of the reasons for this forum in the first place
I have no problem with bisexual people, but don't quite understand bisexuality. but, hey. that's just me. :3

(just to clarify before I get flamed for this, I don't quite understand it, but I'm not biphobic)

 

Drag Queem Rocked

 

I am just blown away by how close minded some of them were. Especially the by the way that most of them viewed the bisexual guy and the transgender. Interesting to see how they all acted together in one group..

 

Cant watch the whole thing, currently busy with a philosophy essay, but what I did see of the first one, it seemed that they picked people who wanted to stand out and be the victim in society, but were subjecting everyone else to the same general phobic nature that someone people extend towards people of the lgbt community.

I am not a lesbian, I am not a transgendered individual, or am I bisexual or interested in cross dressing. I can not claim to understand what it feels like to be another person, because I can only know what it feels like to be me. But I dont see why I should be any higher or lower then anyone else, and I felt like this experiment was set up to create tension that shouldnt really be there.

Each had their own personality, and their own preference, and I have a feeling they were picked because the producers saw potential snarkyness between the. This just felt stagey to me.

 

Yeah, I'm in the process of watching it now, but what upsets me is the group of people they chose to represent the LGBT community, (not so much that the few they chose were only expressing their individual views and it seemed like they were trying to represent their sexuality/identity as a whole.)

I mean, there are SO FEW people that can say "I am a femenine/masculine gay guy/lesbian." because sexuality is not a binary!

I am a queer transman. I wasn't portrayed at all in this "social experiment"! Poor sample group. overall, I'm not impressed with this, not because of how the opinions of individuals are show like they mirror the sentiments of the entire LGBT community, but because of the people that they chose are so unrealistic. ew.

 

It just made the "gay community" look like a bunch of judgemental assholes people who didn't accept anyone who didn't fit into their view of the gay community.

OK, I know that's a big generalisation but it is the reason why I've avoided ever going to any gay groups or clubs, there is something that makes me think that generally they are more judgemental and bitchy and as a result that I wouldn't fit in or feel comfortable around them.

The drag queen seemed like she (do i call her a he or she?) was quite open minded and tolerant...interesting....

 

ok i cant even watch all this i can just tell its gonna be deep stereotypical.reading what everyone says im glad as it really is what i was hoping it wouldent be a total bitchfest. *sigh* i really dont like tyra she makes such a fuss of the gay thing watching her i feel like a freak who should be on display she talks and acts like were a cute fashion accessory its like ffs right off the bat she throws hows shes getting honored for her work.... geez thats as lame as the famous name drop thing people do. if she were to do good work for lgbt community she wouldent have to drop it in there as wed know from other places its just sad. i remember the two guys who did porn was on here while ago she was like so stuck up.

sorry to rant im just sick of the way these chat shows use lgbt people i went through tv yesterday and realised gay guys on these chat shows why must they go for flaming stereotypes its like yea they will able to spot the gay guy but it aint healthy getting us all labeled as beeing like this on tv all the time.... again sorry to rant

 

I like that Tyra does this sort of thing, but alot of times she ends up making the LGBT community look bad. XD
Like, alot of those people were so close minded.
And the femmy leabian's line: "I'm on top of the gay community because I'm feminine, I can get any girl I want AND trick any guy to get what I want" - WTF?
That is not representing all feminine lesbians, it's making them look like sluts.
The show kinda pissed me off.

I liked the drag queen though.

 

Not a fan either, watched one of her shows on youtube before, one where she was talking to these guys who were admitting they were gay but wouldn't live a gay life, and instead intended to get married to a woman and have kids. Obviously that is an issue, but it kinda felt (to me anyway) like they were presenting a particularly shocking scenario in a sensationalised way, and I couldn't watch much of it cus it felt like they shouldn't have addressed the topic. So not sure I'd want to watch those.

But wanted to post this link, in case anyone watches this and is appalled by Tyra, it'll make you feel better

[YOUTUBE]7Och-VFreys[/YOUTUBE]

 

LOL thank you for that vid bob. Laughed my arse off.

I personally think that Tyra is kind of a joke, and that her show is terrible and covers very stupid issues most of the time.

I watch ANTM religiously though, but laugh when her unrelated pictures are all over the place "LOOK PICTURES OF ME I USED TO MODEL IN FRANCE LOOK LOOK".

This Gay Kingdom thing I found pretty lame, like everyone said it is way too stereotypical of each label in the LGBT community. And I don't look up to Tyra as a role model for the gay community even though she obviously tries to be one.

 

It really annoys me how members of the gay community are so judgemental towards bisexual people! Ive been around a few LGBT forums and I have noticed that their is hate towards Bisexuals and I honestly just dont understand it. Why do people who fear being judged, judge others similiar to them so easily? So hypocritical.

 

Tyra Banks' ferocious desire to keep doing exposes on various things pertaining to gay people is getting old and annoying at this point.

 

I like the episodes where she gets the pageant toddlers, or the woman who hopes she dies of cancer, but when she tries to talk like every gay man is just kneeling at her feet with bags of makeup and prada, it's more than insulting.

 

Yeah, I didn't know that bisexuals were looked down upon by even some gay people! It was shocking that they can be intolerant! I guess what Tyra said is right; just like some straight people don't understand gays; some gays don't understand bisexuals.

 

It's really interesting.
There's a lot of things I disagree with, and a lot that I agree with.
I'm not going to give you a run down of everything because I might get yelled at, and I'd rather not offend anyone right now.

But it's interesting the stereotypes everyone plays into when trying to classify each other.

 

I don't feel it helped how people view our community. Most of them came off as jerks.