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I loved this! A Manifesto!

Discussion in 'Current Events, World News, & LGBT News' started by beckyg, Oct 16, 2009.

  1. beckyg

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    A personal manifesto of the brilliant Bible scholar, Dr. John Shelby
    Spong, retired Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Newark, NJ.

    http://www.johnshelbyspong.com/

    from Bishop John Shelby Spong --

    A Manifesto! The Time Has Come!

    I have made a decision. I will no longer debate the issue of
    homosexuality in the church with anyone. I will no longer engage the
    biblical ignorance that emanates from so many right-wing Christians
    about how the Bible condemns homosexuality, as if that point of view
    still has any credibility.

    I will no longer discuss with them or listen to them tell me how
    homosexuality is "an abomination to God," about how homosexuality is a
    "chosen lifestyle," or about how through prayer and "spiritual
    counseling" homosexual persons can be "cured." Those arguments are no
    longer worthy of my time or energy.

    I will no longer dignify by listening to the thoughts of those who
    advocate "reparative therapy," as if homosexual persons are somehow
    broken and need to be repaired.

    I will no longer talk to those who believe that the unity of the church
    can or should be achieved by rejecting the presence of, or at least at
    the expense of, gay and lesbian people.

    I will no longer take the time to refute the unlearned and
    undocumentable claims of certain world religious leaders who call
    homosexuality "deviant."

    I will no longer listen to that pious sentimentality that certain
    Christian leaders continue to employ, which suggests some version of
    that strange and overtly dishonest phrase that "we love the sinner but
    hate the sin." That statement is, I have concluded, nothing more than a
    self-serving /lie /designed to cover the fact that these people hate
    homosexual persons and fear homosexuality itself, but somehow know that
    hatred is incompatible with the Christ they claim to profess, so they
    adopt this face-saving and absolutely false statement.

    I will no longer temper my understanding of truth in order to pretend
    that I have even a tiny smidgen of respect for the appalling negativity
    that continues to emanate from religious circles where the church has
    for centuries conveniently perfumed its ongoing prejudices against
    blacks, Jews, women and homosexual persons with what it assumes is
    "high-sounding, pious rhetoric." The day for that mentality has quite
    simply come to an end for me. I will personally neither tolerate it nor
    listen to it any longer.

    The world has moved on, leaving these elements of the Christian Church
    that cannot adjust to new knowledge or a new consciousness lost in a sea
    of their own irrelevance. They no longer talk to anyone but themselves.

    I will no longer seek to slow down the witness to inclusiveness by
    pretending that there is some middle ground between prejudice and
    oppression. There isn't. Justice postponed is justice denied. That can
    be a resting place no longer for anyone. An old civil rights song
    proclaimed that the only choice awaiting those who cannot adjust to a
    new understanding was to "Roll on over or we'll roll on over you!" Time
    waits for no one.

    I will particularly ignore those members of my own Episcopal Church who
    seek to break away from this body to form a "new church," claiming that
    this new and bigoted instrument alone now represents the Anglican
    Communion. Such a new ecclesiastical body is designed to allow these
    pathetic human beings, who are so deeply locked into a world that no
    longer exists, to form a community in which they can continue to hate
    gay people, distort gay people with their hopeless rhetoric and to be
    part of a religious fellowship in which they can continue to feel
    justified in their homophobic prejudices for the rest of their tortured
    lives. Church unity can never be a virtue that is preserved by allowing
    injustice, oppression and psychological tyranny to go unchallenged.

    In my personal life, I will no longer listen to televised debates
    conducted by "fair-minded" channels that seek to give "both sides" of
    this issue "equal time." I am aware that these stations no longer give
    equal time to the advocates of treating women as if they are the
    property of men or to the advocates of reinstating either segregation or
    slavery, despite the fact that when these evil institutions were coming
    to an end the Bible was still being quoted frequently on each of these
    subjects. It is time for the media to announce that there are no longer
    two sides to the issue of full humanity for gay and lesbian people.
    There is no way that justice for homosexual people can be compromised
    any longer.

    I will no longer act as if the Papal office is to be respected if the
    present occupant of that office is either not willing or not able to
    inform and educate himself on public issues on which he dares to speak
    with embarrassing ineptitude.

    I will no longer be respectful of the leadership of the Archbishop of
    Canterbury, who seems to believe that rude behavior, intolerance and
    even killing prejudice is somehow acceptable, so long as it comes from
    third-world religious leaders, who more than anything else reveal in
    themselves the price that colonial oppression has required of the minds
    and hearts of so many of our world's population. I see no way that
    ignorance and truth can be placed side by side, nor do I believe that
    evil is somehow less evil if the Bible is quoted to justify it.

    I will dismiss as unworthy of any more of my attention the wild, false
    and uninformed opinions of such would-be religious leaders as Pat
    Robertson, James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart, Albert Mohler,
    and Robert Duncan. My country and my church have both already spent too
    much time, energy and money trying to accommodate these backward points
    of view when they are no longer even tolerable.

    I make these statements because it is time to move on. The battle is
    over. The victory has been won. There is no reasonable doubt as to what
    the final outcome of this struggle will be. Homosexual people will be
    accepted as equal, full human beings, who have a legitimate claim on
    every right that both church and society have to offer any of us.
    Homosexual marriages will become legal, recognized by the state and
    pronounced holy by the church. "Don't ask, don't tell" will be
    dismantled as the policy of our armed forces. We will and we must learn
    that equality of citizenship is not something that should ever be
    submitted to a referendum. Equality under and before the law is a solemn
    promise conveyed to all our citizens in the Constitution itself. Can any
    of us imagine having a public referendum on whether slavery should
    continue, whether segregation should be dismantled, whether voting
    privileges should be offered to women? The time has come for politicians
    to stop hiding behind unjust laws that they themselves helped to enact,
    and to abandon that convenient shield of demanding a vote on the rights
    of full citizenship because they do not understand the difference
    between a constitutional democracy, which this nation has, and a
    "mobocracy," which this nation rejected when it adopted its
    constitution. We do not put the civil rights of a minority to the vote
    of a plebiscite.

    I will also no longer act as if I need a majority vote of some
    ecclesiastical body in order to bless, ordain, recognize and celebrate
    the lives and gifts of gay and lesbian people in the life of the church.
    No one should ever again be forced to submit the privilege of
    citizenship in this nation or membership in the Christian Church to the
    will of a majority vote.

    The battle in both our culture and our church to rid our souls of this
    dying prejudice is finished. A new consciousness has arisen. A decision
    has quite clearly been made. Inequality for gay and lesbian people is no
    longer a debatable issue in either church or state. Therefore, I will
    from this moment on refuse to dignify the continued public expression of
    ignorant prejudice by engaging it. I do not tolerate racism or sexism
    any longer. From this moment on, I will no longer tolerate our culture's
    various forms of homophobia. I do not care who it is who articulates
    these attitudes or who tries to make them sound holy with religious jargon.

    I have been part of this debate for years, but things do get settled and
    this issue is now settled for me. I do not debate any longer with
    members of the "Flat Earth Society" either. I do not debate with people
    who think we should treat epilepsy by casting demons out of the
    epileptic person; I do not waste time engaging those medical opinions
    that suggest that bleeding the patient might release the infection. I do
    not converse with people who think that Hurricane Katrina hit New
    Orleans as punishment for the sin of being the birthplace of Ellen
    DeGeneres or that the terrorists hit the United Sates on 9/11 because we
    tolerated homosexual people, abortions, feminism or the American Civil
    Liberties Union. I am tired of being embarrassed by so much of my
    church's participation in causes that are quite unworthy of the Christ I
    serve or the God whose mystery and wonder I appreciate more each day.
    Indeed I feel the Christian Church should not only apologize, but do
    public penance for the way we have treated people of color, women,
    adherents of other religions and those we designated heretics, as well
    as gay and lesbian people.

    Life moves on. As the poet James Russell Lowell once put it more than a
    century ago: "New occasions teach new duties, Time makes ancient good
    uncouth." I am ready now to claim the victory. I will from now on assume
    it and live into it. I am unwilling to argue about it or to discuss it
    as if there are two equally valid, competing positions any longer. The
    day for that mentality has simply gone forever.

    This is my manifesto and my creed. I proclaim it today. I invite others
    to join me in this public declaration. I believe that such a public
    outpouring will help cleanse both the church and this nation of its own
    distorting past. It will restore integrity and honor to both church and
    state. It will signal that a new day has dawned and we are ready not
    just to embrace it, but also to rejoice in it and to celebrate it.

    -- John Shelby Spong
     
  2. Greggers

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    A-friking-mazing Becky. Great find.

    A great example of how religion can and does evolve, although at a slower rate than most everything else.

    Your religion and your sexuality are not an oxymoron or a paradox; The two can live as one.
     
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    Excellent! Thanks for sharing this!
     
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    that's fantastic, we need more people like him in the Church/world.
     
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    :eusa_clap

    He brought up the point that I bring up all the time: it will end with equality. Just look at history. Slavery was a great debate, it's over. Women's suffrage was a great debate, it was granted. It's time again for another group to get equality.
     
  6. Swamp56

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    Interesting; as with the "personal counseling" part, that was outlawed by the APA (American Psychological Association) a few years ago. They deemed a therapist or psychologist or psychiatrist unable to tell a person they can be counseled to be heterosexual.
     
  7. <3 That was awesome. I didn't read your intro, Becky, so I read the whole thing assuming it was a woman writing this. Surprise! But a pleasant one. It seems that women are generally/generally can be more accepting, but this was written by a man. That kinda makes it even more special.

    (At first, I was thinking "The Atreides Manifesto?" XD I'm such a book geek.)
     
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    I applaude him for just coming forward, and making a stand. It isnt a very popular one (well, outside of EC that is), but it is good that people are making a stand.
     
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    Thank you so much for sharing <3
     
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    It's a well thought out and caring response by a retired bishop.
    Though, I admit I had to chuckle a bit when I found out who the manifesto was from. My church friends and I used to joke about some of the descriptions and arguments he articulated in his books.
     
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    Well, he seems to be following through and not backing down from his beliefs on the matter. So, let's hope that continues. Having religious leaders back our human and civil rightsis a good thing, seeing as most all of the homophobia and pushes for inequality are coming striaght from religious circles.
     
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    I really liked this. It was well-thought out and executed. So... I'm going to forward it to my religious friends and parents. Hehehe!
     
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    This really made my day.