Mormon Church Supports New Anti-Discrimination Act

These are the sort of religious people i don't mind. I understand why they would oppose gay marriage but they show that that doesn't mean they are against gays in general. They are against things that they believe are against or would harm their religion. Much better than those that try to use religion as a reason for homophobia.

Seriously? Almost 5 am.. Don't really need a laugh at the moment but wow.

 

I agree that we have set a milestone in Utah. However, the success there is nothing outstanding or extraordinary once we consider it in the greater national context. Those rights are essential human/citizen rights. Sooner or later, they will have to recognize them or suffer full consequences of opposition to a social movement for equality (as in many historical examples): Mormons have already been singled out as "culprits" after Prop. 8, as you have read above. It is only politically (and philosophically) wise to openly give support and soothe the agitation of gay rights group aimed at the Church right now. One stone, two birds.
As you can see. On a higher, long-term level, the Church is far from agreeing with gay marriage. Major motivation of religious or any other non-governmental organizations has to do with their benefits first. So be careful not to attribute this success fully to the Church's "generosity."

 

:eusa_clap
Yay!
This is really, really good progress for the Church.

I know, right?
Uggg.

 

Ha this is funny. Not to long ago, I was chatting with a Mormon Missionary from their website and they were telling me I needed to change my sexual orientation and that if I didn't god would send me to hell.

 

TBH, and not to rain on any parades here, it seems like they are just trying to get out of all the heat they are in for basically single handedly passing horrible anti-gay laws : - /

...but i dont thinkg throwing a cup of water on such a huge fire will do much. Not many people will be fooled into thinking LDS "supports" gay people now. Spending millions on Prop 8 is not "supporting" gay people. This is such an easy thing to say, much to the equivalent of "i dont hate gay people, some of my best friends are gay".

 

I have 2 thoughts.

1. Good for them, that is a very tiny step they are making and hopefully it's a telling sign of more acceptance.

2. The only reason they will ban discrimination against gays in housing is because it would be too outrageous to support it. It's still acceptable to be against gay marriage but not housing.

 

They are probably just doing that so they don't look so bad for supporting prop 8 last year and everything.

 

covering their asses... or at least trying to.

I personally think religion needs to get out of politics all together. It is destroying democracy, and the founding of this country with its intolerent hate.

Can you say michelle bachman of michigan comssioning a 40-60 foot banner showing jews being thrown into open grave pit after being gased to claim that this is what democrats are really doing with healthcare reform? She cant seem to go a week without opening her slutmouth to say something anti-semetic, homophobic, anti america, anti morality, anti goverment, anti-hispanic, anti-italian, anti-asian, anti-african american, anti-freedom, or Anti-3rd grade education.

Americas political decline can be easily traced by the upsurge in political fundementalist chirstian lobby groups.

politics used to be about working for the common good. now it is about fighting over whose god is the big man on the playground.

 

What the hell??!? Aren't these the people that moved into California and gathered support from Cali's neighbouring states to vote yes on Prop8 when it wasn't even their state?? Am I right?

Jeez... what a stupid world... I only hope that this is their true idea and that they will hopefully realize their horrible mistake about Prop 8.

 

I totally agree it is a cover.

LDS has tons of "ex gay" programs. BEING gay doesn't have to do with marriage (just as much as being gay and working has nothing to do with marriage) but here they are trying to change us. Gross.

 

They also are feirce opponants to gays having the rights to have children, either through insemination, surrogate, or adoption.

They do not run themselves or act like a religion in a traditional sense of the word religion. they run themselves like a lobbyest group.

 

Yeah, this is a total "cover-our-asses" move. Let's see, they poured money into Prop 8 which stripped gays of the basic right of marriage. But uh-oh, the gays are justifiably pissed and people are siding with them, we better try to make this small-as-shit amends offer. Sigh, whatever. I suppose it's good that there has been this modicrom of advancement within the Mormon church, but it just small pittance compared to what they've done to us. Kicking gays out of their churches just for being gay, supporting Prop H8 which stripped gays of the right to marry in California, and supprting "ex-gay" therapy which any good psychologist will tell you does not work, and has proven to be psychologically scarring.

What a cop-out. It's a gesture at least, but the Mormon church can still kiss my big gay ass.

 

Do they really think that this is going to endear them to anyone but the people who already think what they did in prop 8 was great?

if the are trying to win the rest of the people over, they are incredibly nieve.

 

They're hypocrites, plain and simple.

 

Preaching to the Choir.

When I was little, my grandparents too my brother and me through parts of the western states *rushmore, crazy horse, nebraska (god, that was a boring drive), and we went through utah* and we visited the LDS temple complex.I was like 5, and I was so upset about how mean it was in my mind. They built this big temple church, but woman werent allowed in unless they were married and had permission from the church and their husbands. How they had this huge geneology database, which claimed that all my ancestors were actually mormons, but because my parents were not mormon, then I cant go to heaven. The freaky 12 foot tall statue of jesus that insinuated that non mormons were not true christians.

I think my grandparents regretted that part of our trip.

 

^LOL yes Nebraska is one of the most boring drives ever, and I have driven across it sooooo many times -_-