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Attorney For Teen Accused of Killing a Gay Classmate Wants New Judge

Discussion in 'Current Events, World News, & LGBT News' started by Dan82, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. Dan82

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    http://www.keyt.com/news/local/Atto...a-Gay-Classmate-Wants-New-Judge-98794629.html


     
  2. Lady Gaga

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    Oldest trick in the legal books. This is the smart thing to do when you know you're going to lose.

    But here's the thing, the next judge/jury you get will have a bias against you because they know what you're trying to do.

    But if they're a good judge/jury, they will ignore the bias.

    Anyways, they wont win.
     
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    evil little bastard should be tried as an adult shown no mercy.
     
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    How in the hell could sexual harrassment possibly justify murder?

    This was a sick crime and the kid deserved to be tried as an adult.
     
  5. Just Adam

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    there are none, he committed murder.
     
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    They're trying to do what they did in the Matthew Shephard case...they're basically using the "gay panic defense"
     
  7. Just Adam

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    thats no legitimate defence.

    the judge they do get may be even harder on the little bastard now as hes tried this stunt to get off what hes done...well heres hoping anyway.
     
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    He should not be tried as an adult because he isn't an adult.
     
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    murder is to serious to be tried as a child.a child could jsut be sentanced to juvi or community service whatever..

    murder is murder and i think hes old enough to take teh punishment.

    if you cant do the time dont do the crime.
     
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    What is the point of having a separate justice system for children if it can be overruled like that?
     
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    but the possible sentences for children are no way severe enough for murder... you put him in juvi or a suspended sentence or whatever and your just letting him get away with it.

    murder is serious and needs to be punished as so.

    as far as myself and the legal system seems to be if he has the foresight to bring a gun and kill somebody a pre planned murder with 2 shots to the head in a class room...then he is old enough to know the serious nature of his actions and must take adequate responsibility for them.

    in the uk we had them 2 scumbags i wont even say their names who killed that small boy and because they were kids themselves they got a smack on the wrists and new identity's for a chance at a new life...claiming they didn't know what they were doing and then reappearing all these years later with further horrid crimes.

    people lean from the cradle that to harm another in anything but self defence is wrong 100% wrong..no matter teh type of harm...


    and this wasn't accidental death this was cold blooded murder and there is no defence for it and must be punished to the extent of the law for murder the age as i see is no defence as he knew what he was doing.

    but as usual these are my views and your entitled to yours :grin:

    we all agree its sick wrong and deserves punishment.
     
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    I think we've had a bit of a misunderstanding here. I never said I disagreed with him being punished to the full extent of the law, I just think it's bloody stupid to have this system where to do so he must be tried as an adult.
     
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    oh sowwy :icon_redf

    i agree it is stupid. i think the law should be the law not one for kids one for others...evidence testimony and common sense should hand down the right punishments and kids who steel sweets will get a small sentance and kids who commit murder wont...:slight_smile:

    but its the law...it never makes sense.
    (*hug*)
     
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    true, although I do like the Children's Hearing system we have in Scotland.
     
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    agreed that can be beneficial.
     
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    Kids have legally diminished responsibility for a lot of their actions, since through no fault of their own their brains are more liable to make them do irresponsible things... Stealing, vandalism, other minor misdemeanours...

    but murder is murder. From a very very young age, children know that murder is inherently wrong... And if they don't, they're wired up wrong... And in that case, to put him in juvie for a short time only to be released while still in his youth would be a punishment to society.

    There's a general trend for young murderers to be given lighter sentences than their older co-criminals. If he has a chance of rehabilitation, it's going to be a number of years before he has the maturity for it to happen. If he's tried as a child, he won't get them.

    However, the cynic in me says that the system won't rehabilitate him anyway and his chance of recidivating is very very high.

    so what's the right thing to do? I'll give a cookie to anyone with the answer, because i don't have it.
     
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    This can't be right
     
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    You know...shooting a person twice in the head is not something a lot of people do without thinking. Either the kid is one of those who shoot without thinking, and would need some time in jail to think about it, or the kid planned this and deserve being jailed anyway.
     
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    This is a 4 year old thread, folks.
     
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    And I realized it was the same poster replying to the same OP on 4 threads from 2010. O-o
    I think i fell for it.