Issues within the GLBT community

Pansexuals. Discussion on whether they exist or whether they're just elitist bisexuals.

 

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Example of the discrimination bisexuals go through even in the LGBT world >_> same with transsexuals.

Other things you could definitely argue about is also the femininity and masculinity of gay and lesbian people. As seen with the giving the straight-acting male the "King" role and the feminine gay as "Cook".

And then Drag Queens which is a form of art, but apparently many believe drag is just to be clowns...

 

To me, pansexuals ARE bisexuals. If you are sexually attracted to anyone, regardless of biological sex or gender, that means you're bi as far as I'm concerned. I'm assuming pansexuals are just sexually open to transgendered folk as well, which as far as I'm concerned shouldn't even be an issue...

Discrimination against bisexuals in general is just ridiculous to me. If anyone wants to defend discrimination against bisexuals, please enlighten me, but otherwise without a good argument for it I consider it a stupid position to hold. I neither believe bisexuals are "experimental straights" or "self-deluded homosexuals". People really can be attracted to both, it's okay.

I don't think pedophilia should ever be connected with the queer community. Jesus Christ, we get enough bad press as it is without people actively trying to drag us through the mud as social deviants and sexual perverts.

 

Umm no pansexual is more than a physical level. It's based on being attracted to someone for who they are, not their outer body. It could be slightly compared to Two-Spirited though 2S is more in the Aboriginal community.

 

Isn't everyone pansexual in that sense then? I mean, who is really only attracted to people based on their appearances?

I don't think pansexuals are elitist - on the other hand, I think people who are only or primarily attracted to people based on their looks or genitals are kind of shallow...but that's probably a bias on my part as a bisexual. I find people of both genders and biological sexes to be attractive, and I'm much more attuned to that person's personality than I am to their looks...

 

It's Hedda Lettuce

 

I don't know. I'm not pansexual to be able to properly define it. As for the name....it's REVAN not RAVEN. Switch the e and the a...

 

No not dyslexia, many people have made the mistake. It just irks me though for some reason.

 

I dunno, people who actively "seek out" transsexuals kind of make me uncomfortable...nobody likes to be fetishized. Well, I take that back, some people like to be fetishized, but I'm not one of them.

I don't want someone to want to sleep with me just because they consider me some human version of a unicorn or something. To me there's a big difference between being open to a relationship with transgendered folks versus seeking them out because you get a sexual thrill from sleeping with gender-benders.

 

geez people are getting heated! well i personally have experienced this somewhat (thread maybe a week ago) that im "too straight" looking, acting, ect. to be a lesbian and it really bugs me. who cares if i wear makeup and dresses? my friends just give me crap because a lot of them fit the sterotypical roles. i thinking maybe its because a lot of them are still in high school and the masculine girls and feminine guys just stick out so they come out faster? because its way easier for me to hide if i so chose. now im just ranting but i definitly feel it

 

So far, I haven't heard a single definition that effectively distinguishes "pansexuality" from bisexuality. Actually, the only definitions of "panseuxality" that I've heard somehow manage to stereotype anybody who identifies as "bisexual" as unable to be attracted to a transgender person, and simultaneously segregate transgenders to the point where a separate sexuality is needed to define anybody attracted to them. Nah. I'm not buying it.

 

My understanding of pansexuality has been that those individuals don't form relationships based upon physical attraction. In other words, they would date anyone of any size, shape, etc. Sort of a sub-set of bisexuality.

Whereas a bisexual individual may not date people that they don't find physically attractive(like large/skinny guys).

 

Any discrimination towards bisexuals in the LGBT community is completely stupid.

Pansexuality vs. Bisexuality, like Maverick said, I see Pansexuality as the same as Bisexuality, with one key difference. Bisexuals are physically attracted to the actual genitalia. Pansexuals don't care about whether they have a penis or vagina, but they care about personality, and (I am stressing the following word) ONLY personality.

 

Guess I should identify pan then, because plumbing doesn't matter much to me.

 

If you would feel better doing that, then yes. But personally, it doesn't matter as long as you know who you like. That's all that's important. A pansexual is "(also referred to as omnisexuality) is a sexual orientation, characterized by the potential for aesthetic attraction, romantic love, or sexual desire towards people without regard for their gender identity or biological sex."

 

I thought the whole point of the label "pansexual" was to remove the dichotomy created by the word "bi" (two), so as to be inclusive of those who consider themselves to be neither entirely male nor female, but both, or somewhere in between (intersex, genderqueer, two-spirited, etc.). Also, I think some people who identify as pansexual do so because they want to avoid biphobia.