Fox News coverage of the DOMA lawsuit

How the Republicans can justify spending money to discriminate against gays and lesbians is really sad.

 

This really annoying, to say the least. I think reconstructing our economy and getting money into consumers' pockets again should be the focus of politics right now.

I honestly don't understand how people can look at this law and not think of how oppressive it is. This isn't the 50's. People should know better!

 

What I find confusing is all the comments about "AMG SOCIALISM!" I was expecting blatant homophobia. It seems Faux News readers fail at reading comprehension.

 

Silly NickT! Don't you know that socialism is part of the gay agenda? Or possibly the other way around? We're all closet Marxists poised to force command-economy-produced porn on an audience of persecuted Christians.

 

well..it is within the right of The House to defend this action. Sorry if you disagree with it.
and keep in mind...us conservatives love the obsession you liberals have for Fox..so keep up the good work Dan! that just means more traffic for foxnews.com

 

I don't think this is really about being liberal or conservative. It's about our rights, which effects you too because you're gay.

 

I didn't sign on to get knocked around by anyone's abusive boyfriend, which is basically what this is amounting to. When at least 30% of the gay community is consistently voting against it's best interest...is it any wonder we haven't gotten full equality yet?

 

Unfortunately, its tough to deny his comments. It is more the house's responsibility to spend money to defend the law if the administration doesn't. As much as I HATE it, it is a law of this nation. I'm glad the Obama administration stopped defending it, putting us a step closer to repealing it though!

and keep in mind, some people have more than just the interests of the gay community in their mind when voting. LGBT conservatives usually aren't social conservative, but their fiscal conservative belief's may outweigh anything else.

And I'm curious, where did you get the 30%? If true, that's interesting. definitely like to see survey results on that one (this is sincerity, sorry if it comes across as sarcastic! it isn't!)

 

I'm not trying to stir anything up...I'm just simply trying to make a point. If the liberal world hates Fox so much...why give them the publicity? Why even acknowledge them?
Do you think I bother, or would give them the satisfaction of a higher web traffic count, going to the far left kook websites? No.

 

I actually think about this same thing all the time. It reminds me of when homophobes are seemingly obsessed with hating gay people.

 

I personally never give Fox News the time of day. I hear things second-hand, sure, but I never visit their site and I sure as hell never watch their channel.

 

Because they are REALLY good at getting attention and that's what it is all about after all.

Same reason why people obsess over attention-whores even if they know they are only doing it for attention. Same reason why no one can ignore the WBC and same reason why we have multiple magazines dedicated to stalking celebs.

We enjoy hating something as a group. Its human nature, really

(Reason why Rebecca Black is making so much money. Everyone loves to hate her )

 

The law was defended though, and it was found unconstitutional. No one is obligated to defend it past an appeal, so this is motivated by pure homophobia and political pandering at this point.

The 30% figure comes from a bunch of different polls. During the 2008 election, against all reason and sanity, 28% of the LGBT community that voted did so for McCain/Palin. During the last election in November even more voted republican, slightly more than 30%. Just do a Google search on it and you can see them for yourself.

I will say that at some point a person's self-worth and self-respect has to count for something. I don't understand how someone could support a politician that is actively trying to end your civil rights. It's just crazy. Is a tax-break worth your soul and humanity? Is it worth the ability to marry the person you love? Is it worth equality? I say that no, it isn't.

 

Well, the recent healthcare bill was found un-constitutional by 2 different judges...should the government halt all appeals with that?

 

Sorry, but you fail. You completely ignored the meat of his post and decided to nit-pick instead. Sorry, but that's not going to work. He asked you a question. If you can't give an honest answer, you should reassess your priorities.

You may like Republicans for their economics, but they also actively say that what you are is an abomination and hate you. They call your love unnatural and immoral. These are things that I personally cannot tolerate.

 

I disagree..it's a very valid question considering his logic as applied to the judicial system. It's just a law that most liberals like, so it is ok to defend THAT action.
It's called a double standard.
And to answer the question, the ability to have more money in my bank account is more important to me than marrying someone. I know that makes me a bad gay, I know that may seem harsh, but that is just the way it is.

I have stated many times before, social issues are not my thing. I could care less.
Once again, the point of my argument, is that it is completely within the legal jurisdiction to defend this action...you don't have to like it, but that is the law. And it will remain law until the SCOUS deems it is not.

 

Politics sucks plain and simple. Be that as it may, I kinda wish they could have just a President of Earth like in Futurama, generally seems to work quite well....

 

the aspects republicans hate about the healthcare laws ironicly are the ones they spent well over a decade demanding be apart of any healthcare reform. The 'Individual Mandate' came from republicans, was pushed by republicans strongly since 1993, and now the republicans got what they wanted, and are useing it now as a giant poison pill.

what those that reality speak to in relations to the republicans? They knew they couldnt win on healthcare, because it was one of the most popular, supported by american issues... so they fought to put in the one thing they could use to destroy the entire thing.

besides, healthcare reform is different from DOMA. Healthcare reform is not discriminatory, where as DOMA is. One was created to demonize and denigrate a whole group of citizens on the basis of political and religious animous towards LGBT citizens, and the other was created to reform a broken health system that made it impossible for millions of american's to get health care because they, as citizens, did not have rights or protections against the profit-centric whims of the cooprorate insurance industry.

Interestingly enough, the majority of judges who have looked at health care reform have found it, including the indivdual mandate *again, a republican invention and demand* to be constitutional. because two choose to rule otherwise doesnt mean that majority who have ruled the law is consitutional are invalidated.

besides, the concept of a individual mandate has never been unconstitutional before, and there are many examples of it being apart of our laws. For example, in america, any one driving a car is mandated to have car insurance, or proof of self-insurance for those who can afford that route... that is a 'individual mandate', and has not been declared unconstitutional.

Everyone who works is required to pay taxes in the forms of deductions on their paychecks, and it is a mandate you can't opt out on... is that unconstitutional?

To compare healthcare reform to DOMA is basically like comparing Anne Frank to Hitler.

 

I wasn't comparing healthcare to DOMA. Using the given logic, I was simply asking the question if the government should not appeal the individual rulings because they lost.

The healthcare bill is one of the main reasons why several legislators lost and a major reason why control of the House shifted. While there are varying opinion polls out there, I would question that it is very popular.

In the end, it doesn't really matter what a Federal Judge here says, or Federal Judge there says does it? It really comes down to what 9 judges say.

Healthcare, just like DOMA, like it or love it, is the law until they say it is not.