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Conservative columnist: Obama’s refusal to defend DOMA will cause the fall of America

Discussion in 'Current Events, World News, & LGBT News' started by Dan82, Apr 26, 2011.

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    Re: Conservative columnist: Obama’s refusal to defend DOMA will cause the fall of Ame

    Sorry, but I'm not entirely sure who this guy is trying to convince. He flat-out says that he isn't trying to convince anyone because it is "beyond their understanding." Anyone else will already agree with him, so what's the point of this column?

    Is it to convince the majority of Catholics that supporting homosexual marriage is wrong? Possibly, but I get the feeling this guy is so out of touch with reality that he can't even comprehend the possibility of there being Christians that support equal marriage rights.
     
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    Re: Conservative columnist: Obama’s refusal to defend DOMA will cause the fall of Ame

    Right, because in all the history of all the world, nothing ever changes right? Especially not the family!
     
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    Re: Conservative columnist: Obama’s refusal to defend DOMA will cause the fall of Ame

    The truth is that marriage as we know it is young. The idea of two parties entering into a contract out of love is still considered a fairy tale in most parts of the world.

    Marriage is not a sacred thing, it never has been. It was a method of acquiring cooperation with other families and was the main vehicle for oppressing women for the majority of human civilization. Is that what he wants us to defend?

    Marriage already has radically changed and it's going through another change. That's all this is about.
     
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    i'm still trying to understand how the destruction of "the family" (whatever that means) was the cause for the downfall of all those societies. I'm also curious how the U.S.A. is the ONLY world power left.... god people are ignorant
     
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    That part annoyed me too. Ummm... What about China? India? The UK? Those aren't world powers?
     
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    Re: Conservative columnist: Obama’s refusal to defend DOMA will cause the fall of Ame

    actually, historically, all of those empires were either conquared, or if they fell, it was because they became top-heavy, which either unbalanced the entire system, or stirred up rebellion by the majority at the bottom sick of being basically slaves to the whims up the highest eschalons of society.

    Ironic, because something is happening in america that is similer. We have a top heavy society in america where the people who work the hardest get the shaft, and the few at the very very top (quite a few who which only exist in that sphere by a lottery of birth, and some purely on fraud) profit off the hard working people below them. They realize they can increase their profit by shipping american jobs overseas, and not having to pay taxes through sometimes unethical means, then fund politictions who demonize poor people and sick people as being 'lazy slobs', while always making sure that while hard working middle class americans struggle to get by in a crisis they did not create so that the miniscule few %'s at the top can bear no responciblity for what they created.

    The roman empire also really did not fall or collapse... it declined, and then changed it's name to the Roman Catholic Church when the state religion was changed from patheonic paganisem, to christanity when it became clear the first would not be able to stop the second.

    There is not decline of the family... that is a meaningless phrase. It is a conservative culture war lie, and it is losing potency.

    Equality, be is Racial, Gender, Sexual Orientation and Identity, Religion, Edcuational, or Economic in nature will never be the downfall of america...

    ...Our downfall is planted firmly in the belief that america should exist for the 'haves', at the expense of the 'have nots', and that if you are not a 'have', then go fuck yourself and die.

    That is what we are seeing america reduced to, by the very same party that stands firmly against the notion that 'All men are created equal' when the words 'All Men' doesn't apply only to people that are in the right wing.
     
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    Re: Conservative columnist: Obama’s refusal to defend DOMA will cause the fall of Ame

    Facepalm says it all