Tea Party Leader: We'll Take The Debt Ceiling Hike If Reinstate DADT

does the tea party understand the dramatic effects no raising the debt ceiling will have on our econamy and the world economic system?

 

Of course not. That requires using logic. Logic is the work of the devil.

 

effiminizing the military... whats next? IF WE ALLOW OUR CHILDREN TO READ, THEN THEY WILL GET IDEAS!!!

 

Ok...not raising the debt ceiling (on a temporary basis) is not going to lead to the downfall of the entire planet...everybody knows that.

The U.S. Treasury has a constant steam of revenue coming in, and by The Administration's own admission they can use accounting measures to keep running until August...so I think that those that don't want to raise it without certain spending limits in place are 100% correct.

Logic is a four letter word with the far right as it is with Michael Moore and his leftist nuts, so I don't think that is reserved simply for the nuts with the Tea Party.

 

Non sequitur, imo. That's like comparing bread and cheese.

 

Eh, I don't think so Jim. Every movement has its nuts, and the extremes of both ends of the spectrum are filled with them...the Tea Party simply happens to be the flavor of the month so to speak.

 

*hold tongue* No comment.

 

The stupid primate that this thread is referring to is about nine-billion times stupider than anyone intellectually relevant to michael moore.

 

You can compare Michael Moore to the Tea-Party when he represents an incredibly powerful political faction. I agree, leftist nuts are as nutty as right-wing nuts, but it's more like comparing a lone bumblebee to an angry beehive.

 

Well, it's all relative kinda. My point is that the extremes of both sides have wing-nuts. There is no doubt that Moore is a smart man (I think he is a radical leftist, but that does not discount his intellectual capacity by any means)..and if I was on the left I would rather him speak for the movement over Nancy Pelosi...I just think he has a little better grasp on "intellectual" things....just as I would rather have Newt Gingrich debate policy over Sarah Palin, for the same reason.

 

fair enough. I like mero's analogy with the bees though =D

 

just remeber, the tea partiers with pride refer to themselves as "tea baggers"... so we know the intelligence quota of these idiots.

That, and your average tea partier doesnt even know what the boston tea party really was about.

 

Oh really now? I happen to agree with most of what the tea party states. I considered joining now that I am out. I am also rather "right wing" in many of my views. I would love to see you school me on US history and the ideals of the founding fathers. I am sick of people bashing the right simply because of our nuts but hey when the right does it to anyone in the GLBT community well they are homophobic and basing their opinions on the crazy's right?
Oh sure this measure makes me sick but the commentary here makes me sicker. Its oh so common of the duel standards I see in many of the debates here.

 

I agree with it. The level of stupid i have seen in all forms of media from tea party commentators (in many cases leaders) far outweighs that i hear from any other group, even from the nutbags who associate with any other political position. I wouldn't apply that to every single person in the entirety of the tea party, but it does seem to be a noticeable trend.

 

You don't have to know anything about economics to see that this is an incredibly stupid idea.

 

The boston tea party was a group of people who took it upon themselves to protest the high taxes and tarriffs that were put on the colonies by the british crown. They threw the tea in the harbour to make a statement about forigen interference by the british in american affairs, and to protest the crippling effect of high taxes and terriffs on imported goods which were not readily avalible or produceable in america at the time.

That is a different situation from what we are seeing today. The tea partiers are not fighting foreign entities taxes america, nor are they fighting high taxes, as our taxes are some of the lowest in american history.

What the tea party is fighting is the reality that their policies (what few they actually seem to have), are the same policies that took the strongest econamy in decades, and turned it into the worst since the great depression. They are a movement that want to continue the very policies that decimated our econamy. They want to further erode the tax levels, but they want all those things that taxes pay for. So they want their medicare, medicade, social security, military spending, roads, power grid, really anything that taxes pay for, but they dont want to pay the taxes that pay for them.

they are not asking for anything new. All they are asking for is what got us into the mess in the first place.

it is people proclaiming patrotisem while not wanting to sacrafice anything for the well-being of their country.

Right wing calls for 'small goverment' are historically a lie. Republicans grow goverment like no ones buisness, just never in a way that the american people can benifit from... because the american people benifiting is 'socialisem'.

the tea party is a joke. they dont want positive change, they want buisness as usual. and the vast majority of people who show up at their rallys show a complete lack of understanding for american history and values.

When you see people holding signs that say things like "get your goverment hands off my medicare", and "obama has charz, this isent russia" (made funny that ronald reagan was the first, and bush had more than obama has), it becomes clear that this is a group of people who are all talk, but no substance.

their idea to fix america is to renact all the policies that broke america.

and all during this, we are seeing bold, open racisem and homophobia in their ranks. We are seeing a rejection by the tea party, both of american history and ideals, but also of common sense.

this group did not appear until it became clear that america might have its first black president, and throughout its history, the racisem has continued to show itself at tea party rallies, and in the statements of people who have posititoned themselves at the head of a movement proclaimed to be grassroots, but from the very beginning had direct financial ties to some of the largest, anti-minorities, anti-gay, anti-middle class organizations on the extreme political right wing.

 

You know, I think it would be more useful to put a .45 to my head than to argue with you any more...because i don't think you have any fucking clue what you are talking about.

Apparently you hang out with more republicans than I do, since you seem to know so much about our grand conspiracy against the blacks, the gays and such.

The Tea party Movement..granted I think some of them are nuts..is more about taxes..and it did not emerge because people were horrified that..gasp..we may have a black president (after all, he is half white..but that is beside the point)...and anyone that says that, quite frankly, shows that they have no clue what the fuck they are talking about and simply proves that they are nothing more than a partisan hack.

The Tea Party is also about the role of government in our lives, and how large the government has gotten. It is about this absurd "cradle to grave" mentality that the government currently has.

Are there lunatics in this movement, of course...EVERY political movement has nuts. Anyone with any political sense at all can see that.