lgbt rights vs religious freedom

Wow... I'm sorry but religion has nothing to do with letting somebody use the dressing rooms. Even if it did, in this economy you want to keep a job right??
It makes me angry, that people use religion to discriminate.

 

...why is it one or the other? I don't get that.

 

I hope someone finds my diary in 2000 years time and proceeds to base all of their actions, morals and government on what I wrote without questioning it.

Although I don't have a diary, so I'd better start one.

 

"I had to either comply with Macy's or comply with God" Wow, that's just silly. It has nothing to do with her religion. What a crock of shit. Very good quote here, "she'll have problems in all walks of life where people make decisions she doesn't agree with"

 

And starfish in his letter to the Westboro Baptist Church wrote "and fuck you and the horse you road in on." It is clear from this letter that God wants us to engage in orgies with animals. To do otherwise in a abomination.

 

She, in being employeed by macy's, is obligated to abide by the rules of the people who sign her checks (or did, before she broke their rules).

Religious freedom constitutionally does not extend past practicing your religion in the privacy of your own life (which does not allow for criminal activities to be called 'religious freedoms', which is a big problem with one church in oregon that has 80+ dead children buried on church grounds because the parents neglected them, saying God does not allow for medical care, as only prayer is allowed. So many children with easily curable illnesses, and were preventable deaths are dead, and the parents keep saying in court that it is their 'religious freedoms', and so the court cannot prosecute them for child abuse and neglect.)

Her religious rantings are irrelevant. She failed to do her job, and was fired for it. She was not fired because she subscribed to anti-jesus beliefs... she was fired because she refuses to follow the rules laid out in the stores policies.

the Liberty Council is a group of assfucktardfaceturdburger facists. They believe liberty is only for certain people, and if you do not fit in with their narrow-minded, anti-constitution, anti-america, anti-christ views, then they will do everything to ensure you do not get your freedoms.

SPLC needs to designate them a hate group, if they have not already. I think they might be covered already because I think they are associated with the AFA and Focus on the Family, which have already earned the hate group designation.

 

No other minority group's rights are pitted against other people's religious freedom as if they're of equal concern. Not anymore anyway. If a Mormon claimed that their traditional interpretation of Mormonism meant they had to discriminate against black people at work, or a Christian claimed that they were only anti-Semitic because "Jews killed Jesus" the vast majority would not hesitate to fire them and it would get nowhere in the courts. There's also weird verse in the Bible about disabled people not being allowed in the temple, and in Orthodox Judaism women on their period mustn't be touched. I'd like to see these used as justification for discriminating against anyone at work.

 

Wat crap! I tried turning 2 d bible & stuff wen i was confused and trying 2 accept my sexuality and I ended up finding stuff dat said "a woman is unclean during her monthly period" it also said stuff lyk "a woman needs 2 be purified after childbirth because she is ritually unclean..."! Seriously?!? WTF! i dont think any woman would agree with all that! i don't get how people still stick to 'organised' religion after reading stuff like this... theism without the religion kinda rocks though...

 

I didn't know that the male and female dressing rooms were for male or female gender, not sex. I always thought they were by sex not gender. But doesn't that make having male and female dressing rooms a little silly? Anyone could use any of them if they wanted....

Either way idk what following the rules of the company has to do with her religion? Did god say "and thy must never let transgender people useth the dressing room of the gender with which they identify"? I mean it doesn't make sense to base it on religion. She can disagree with transgender people's "lifestyle," but that doesn't mean she can't let them use a dressing room.

 

Stuff like this makes me so nervous. I hope that the trans woman is doing okay. That would have been really hurtful and embarrassing.

 

The importance of religious freedom is vastly overstated. Religious freedom never included the right to prostelyze, or otherwise bully others into your beliefs.

Your beliefs dictate that you discriminate? Honestly, tough beans. They're fantasy stories to begin with; indulging in them privately is fine, but my rights begin where yours end.

 

"Freedom of religion" does not equal "freedom to be an asshole".

 

Totally agree. Yes, we do have religious freedom in this country, but that does not give you the right to discriminate.

 

I love how everyone always goes to the protection of women in these situations. Like all trans women are beasts who rape any woman they see in a dressing room or rest room. We're there for the same reason any woman is: to see if something fits or to do our business and leave. As much as these people want to make us out to be unholy demons, we're not. We're only people.

 

How humiliating. That person is incredibly ignorant.

 

Amazingly, few people want sexuality-segregated bathrooms. By their reasoning, it would make more sense. Throw gay men in with lesbians, neither will give a shit!

Oh, wait, the smell of piss and shit alone is enough to never get me turned on in the restroom. Times have changed; put everyone in the same bathroom like they do in Europe.

 

This is a non-case. It has absolutely nothing to do with this woman's right to believe what she wants. It is about her enforcing her beliefs on other people. That is not covered by freedom of religion. Freedom is for everyone, not meant to be used by the majority to oppress the minority.

Any adult should have learned that freedom has to have it's limits. Defined by law. This bigoted and ignorant women should find herself a job elsewhere if she can't do the job properly due to her personal beliefs.

 

Frum (Orthodox) Jews stick to many of the purification laws to this day. Orthodox men will almost never touch a woman, including their wives, in public to avoid the taint of a menstruating woman (theoretically they could touch their wives when they were pure, but that would mean people would tell when their wives were menstruating, which would violate their privacy). Men can also be rendered ritually impure if they come into contact with semen (including their own).

One of the reasons that the Temple can't be rebuilt is that no one can approach the Temple if they are corpse-impure, a state that can be incurred through touching a corpse, crossing the shadow of a coffin, and entering a graveyard among other things. Since the only way to purify people who are corpse-impure is to sprinkle them with the ashes of a perfectly red heifer, and no heifer meeting the exacting standards set by the rabbis after the destruction of the Temple has been found in the past nineteen hundred years, the Temple can't be rebuilt.

 

Now just think how far humanity would have come if 90% of the population didn't waste time on ritualistic practices and artificially limit themselves to satisfy a storybook.

(obligatory "no offense to those of you who are religious")