Guilty verdict in New Jersey webcam spying/suicide case

While I don't fully agree with the amount of years since he should have gotten more. I guess in a way they are right that he didn't cause Tyler's death. He didn't tell him to jump off a bridge, nor tell him to kill himself. He invaded Tyler's privacy yes, but on a legal standing, he did not directly cause Tyler's death.

 

This. Give him 5 years and everyone will learn their own lessons from this mess.

 

they wont learn.

most people have no idea this case even exists, and if they do, they arent going to pay attention to it.

oh, and i just checked. yahoo has a poll up, and currently 69% of users agree with the conviction. That surprised me. usually, the right wing crusades that turn every article into "obama is a monkeyfucker" in the comment section go crazy with the polls on the front page.

 

i agree with this

 

the statutorily permissible sentencing range on a second-degree is 5 to 10 years. he won't get the top end as a first offender, and i wouldn't be surprised if he got the 5. the possible deportation consequences are probably of bigger concern to him right now, though. i bet he's wishing now that he took the plea deal he was offered for probation . . .

 

Idiot. He should have taken the plea deal that was offered to him (that his other friend who was in trouble took and is pretty much off the hook) and sucked it up. Community service, counseling (or something like that) and the ability to fight off deportation. I've got no logical idea why he would have turned that down, or why the lawyers would have. It was actually a pretty sweet deal. Now he's a convicted felon facing deportation back to India.

 

oh god... I THOUGHT THERE WAS MORE TIME!!!!

The hive mind is forming... soon, it was grow in complexity, break free, and take over the world.

 

Excellent. The plan is working just fine.

 

the co-defendant got into pretrial intervention, which is not a conviction. he wouldn't have gotten that with a second-degree crime (it happens but quite rarely). but he did at one point have a plea deal for straight probation. maybe he was confident he would win if he took it to trial, but that's a big risk to take

 

meh give him the 10 years, you need to set a standard that things like this should not be tolerated, imo hes digging his own grave, i just wished he would hurry it up and sleep in it already.

sure he didnt tell tyler to jump the cliff, but he made another human being feel beyond like shit, made another human being feel like he is lower than dirt, made another human being feel like he wasn't accepted anywhere for all time to everyone.

i just hope tylers death was something like a martyr, for all other gay suicides gone under the radar, to make some actual change.

ravi doesnt deserve a slap on the wrist kind of sentence, he needs a sentence that will smack him in the face.

 

and with that he is off to find out what gay harassment is actually like, in prison.

also, i believe as the only citizen in his family, it means the rest of the clan will be deported.

justice is a .......

 

Well, I didn’t follow this case too much, but I definitely heard of and know of it. The thing I’m wondering is, how did the judge determine that it was a gay hate crime as opposed to just a “regular” invasion of privacy or some such? As I recall, Ravi and his lawyer worked very hard on trying to rid the case of the “gay hate crime” aspect, and wasn’t that just speculation anyway? Was there actually evidence found of Ravi’s homophobia or something?

Forgive me if I ask too many questions; as I said, I haven’t been following this case much, but now I’m curious.

 

He should have taken the plea deal. He should have taken the plea deal. He should have taken the plea deal. It's by his own choice that he didn't take the plea deal, and that is final.

Really, I could have forgiven him, to some extent, for pulling a retarded prank that got someone KILLED. His behavior was irresponsible and mean-spirited, but he could have just admitted that he was in the wrong and stayed a free man. He had the choice. He decided he didn't want to show remorse. It was his call. The judge didn't make the call for him.

 

He'll have to exhaust the direct appeal process first -- which I have no doubt he will do -- before he can bring an ineffective assistance of counsel claim in a petition for post-conviction relief. I was surprised the jury convicted him on the bias intimidation charges, so I would be absolutely stunned if he didn't appeal.