Log Cabin Republicans Endorse Mitt Romney for President

they think mittens will listen to them :roflmao:

 

I may live in England, but I'm awaiting this election with baited breath. I'll be severely disappointed if Romney wins. I know there isn't a clear favourite, but is it really too close to call? Could anyone break it down state by state? Which are the democrat states, republican states, and swing states?

 

heres a map of them:

and yeah, im not american either but im super stoked for the election

 

I'm almost sad that I'm voting in a swing-state. I don't wanna vote for Obama (whooo, third parties!) but considering my vote might actually make a difference, I'm gonna do it anyways.

 

Republicans, endorsing a... *gasp* Republican? :lol: And you expected what out of partisan zealots? :icon_wink

Obama always has and will continue to have the upper-hand in the electoral college - too many states that were once considered sure-fire red states have gone blue over the past couple of decades, so the Republicans are having to make up ground in the general elections now.

The key ones to watch are Ohio and Florida - if Romney fails to get both states then he will have to win every other swing state on the map to get the presidential office (see gordilocks's map above - grey being the "swing states"). If the system decided a winner based on popular vote, I would say this election would be a coin flip - Romney could easily win the popular vote but lose the electoral college.

Because our quirky system gives the advantage to Obama, I'll have to see it to believe it, in regards to Romney winning. I see his best chance as sweeping both Ohio and Florida, in which case it would go down to the wire as to who would win the rest of the toss-ups - but I personally doubt that happening. Polls are all over the map currently, so definitive analysis cannot be given, but if Obama wins just one of those two key states it could be over.


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Yeah, don't buy that claim for a second. Then you'd do what, endorse Ron Paul? The guy I hear mainstream Republicans sh*t on daily?

Like Romney being a capable president, I'll believe it when I see it.

 

I can understand LCR not endorsing Obama, but endorsing Romney really puts their status as a gay rights group in question.

 

Both candidates suck this year.

 

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. As much as I would disagree with their point of view, I still think there is some legitimacy to it.

There are a lot of people that don't think you can send the equal rights movement back, so to many its a safe bet to take when it comes to choosing the president. Wouldn't be my pick, but to say that they loose their "status" as a gay rights groups might be a bit much.

Say what you will, but I do believe they are still people who are trying to do what they think its right to get equal rights. That alone, even if its the "wrong" way of going about it, says a lot.

 

Not every homosexual in the country will have left wing oriented viewpoints.

 

And really, I also think it's alright to be a gay group without gay rights being your highest priority. If Obama and Romney switched positions on gay rights then I'd still vote for Obama because I believe that Romney's other policies are ultimately worse for the future of our country irrelevant of my sexuality.

 

I disagree. If, as a group, your main purpose includes advocating for gay rights, then supporting a President who opposes them means your group loses credibility. Like you, if Obama and Romney's LGBT rights positions were reversed, I would still favor Obama. However, I would not expect, say, the HRC to endorse Obama, and would find such an action utterly contrary to their principles.

 

What a twisted joke of an organization. And Log Cabin Republicans are supposed to be the progressive strong gay rights defenders in the Republican Party (compared to the completely pathetic GOProud crowd who endorsed Romney as soon he became the nominee).

---------- Post added 24th Oct 2012 at 11:46 PM ----------

You are voting in New Mexico? That map is wrong. New Mexico is NOT a swing state any more. The GOP has collapsed among Hispanic voters to the point where no serious analyst would claim NM will be competitive. Plus NM's former Republican Governor Gary Johnson will be on the ballot as a Libertarian taking a lot of GOP votes in his home state.

This is what the presidential electoral map looks like right now according to two different sources, based on the polling:

 

That's true: though I don't entirely trust polls enough to risk my vote on them though (and your map is the first poll I've seen with strong Obama, I've been mainly seeing lean Obama). Not to mention the Romney campaign has all but given up on New Mexico. And from personal experience I know that Obama's ground crew in NM is pretty amazing.

Regardless, the state still has a history of close elections. I think Gore won New Mexico by 300 votes. It won't be as close this race, probably a lot due to Johnson, but I still don't want to risk it. I'm all about making a statement, but still...

 

Well, vote for whomever you want to, of course. But don't feel obligated you have to vote for Obama because you think it would throw the election to Romney otherwise. Jill Stein, Rocky Anderson, Gary Johnson are all on the ballot in your state, and are better choices, naturally.

Nate Silver at 538/NYTimes currently gives Obama a 96.3% chance of winning NM. If NM were to even become close for Romney, it would unfortunately mean he's probably already winning all the swing states and the race is over. NM has never in its history decided the outcome of a presidential election.

2000 was a different era. Obama crushed McCain in the state by 126,000 votes in 2008 and political pundits have made note of the fact that nobody considers it a swing state this time around. Here's an article about it:
New Mexico has become a safe Democratic state because of a growing Hispanic population, Native Americans, and bad Republican talking points. - Slate Magazine