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Being Transgender is no longer considered a disease!

Discussion in 'Current Events, World News, & LGBT News' started by Keelin, Dec 11, 2012.

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    While I admit not being transgender makes it impossible to fully understand your feelings, I wonder why you like this declassification. This will lower access to sex reassignment surgery and will give insurance companies a reason not to cover it.

    I have always heard of being trans as feeling like you were trapped in the wrong body, so to classify it, you would have to call it a disease of the mind, or a disease affecting every cell in the body, and to not classify it would be to ignore the distress it can cause.
     
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    But it's not a disease. If anything it's more of a defect, though I hate saying that too.
    We were born with the opposite brain to our assigned sex. So I was born with a male's brain yet I appear female.
    It all has to do with the hormones and such when you're in the womb.
    We're not mentally ill with anything.
     
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    Being transsexual is a physical medical condition not a mental infirmity. It certainly does effect every cell in the body, or at least every cell susceptible to sex hormones. The medical community, along with the rest of this country, needs to recognize that being transsexual does not mean someone suffers from any sort of mental condition. It is a physical condition that requires medical assistance to correct.
     
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    I would agree with you, I just think that it would be necessary to make sure it was listed as a physical condition before removing the mental one.

    Just playing the devils advocate here, doesn't the argument that it is a physical condition also imply that it effects the brain? Since even brain cells have the XX and XY chromosomes, it should count as a mental condition either way.
     
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    The physical condition is literally that I am a woman and that I have an xy chromosome stucture. That's the physical condition. What are the symptoms of that physical condition? I have testicles and a penis. I can't change my chromosomes, which means I cannot completely correct the physical condition. I can however correct the symptoms of that condition, namely medically alter the penis and testicles. Does that answer your question?
     
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    diseases are cancer...a cell growing inside you killing you and must be removed.
    we don't need a lobotomy.

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    I know mentally ill people. They are not like us. I know peeps with diseases of the brain, and they not like us at all.

    A genius has a different thing brain, is that person suffering a mental condition? An artist? a person who is both handed? etc. Then why add us?
     
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    Just because it's in the DSM doesn't mean that it is like schizophrenia or other sever mental illnesses. For example, I have been diagnosed with Aspergers, which is also listed in the DSM. People with Aspergers can in some ways be more functional than average, but it should still be included, because it requires attention and treatment different from the norm.

    Ok, diseases can be cancer, but they can also be a cold.

    So I'm not saying you need a lobotomy, but you would probably would want hormones. If it wasn't a disease you wouldn't, want drugs or surgery and you would not have any sort of distress from living your life as your birth gender. So that's why it should be included, because you need something to be fully content with yourselves.

    It would be unethical to try to "cure" GID, just like it would be unethical to attempt to "cure" Aspergers, a paraphillia, or anything where the logical mind is still intact, so don't say I think you should have a lobotomy or anything like that. If I heard anyone say anything like that I wouldn't hesitate to smack them over the head with a brick.

    Again it doesn't necessarily need to be classified as a mental disorder, but it needs to be classified as something or insurance won't need to cover hormones or sex reassignment surgery anymore.
     
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    Being transgender isn't a mental disorder, nor is being transsexual.

    But gender dysphoria sure can be, and I don't think it's impossible to be treating dysphoria as a mental condition while NOT treating trans* people like being trans* is a disease. If dysphoria is making someone unable to function, then yeah, it's a disorder. Doesn't mean being trans* is still considered a disorder, though.

    So I count it as a victory.
     
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    My victory will come when insurance covers it and i can afford the insurance. :slight_smile: I am paying thousands a year at school for Aetna, but I only see a student therapist once a month at school, not even a doctor let alone GID specialist. I wonder what to do now...will that change affect who I look for or how they treat me?
     
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    I completely agree. Insurance need's to cover. How's that petition going?
     
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    It was never considered a disease, but 'transgenderism' is still a legitimate diagnosis.
    This year it'll change from 'gender identity disorder' to 'gender dysphoria'.
     
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    Should it really be covered? It's elective surgery. And don't say, "it should be affordable to everyone because everyone deserves the right to feel comfortable in their bodies." Because there are far more basic medical needs we should be worrying about.

    I don't want to come off as transphobic, but if you feel you'd be happier in a different body, you should pay to make that happen.
     
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    Transexuallity was considered a disease? Its not even close to be considered a mental disease!
     
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    I'm not transgendered, but if I were, I know for a fact that my insurance would cover hormones and sex reassignment surgery. It's called out explicitly in the plan documentation. What they would not cover is "cosmetic procedures" - for example electrolysis. More employers need to get on board with serving that segment of the population. I'm sure they'd find that the costs wouldn't go significantly up, but the satisfaction of their transgendered employees certainly would!

    Of course, I work for a Fortune 100 company, so things may be slightly skewed from my view of the world.
     
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    while im glad its not consider a disease im very concerned because it does give people a reason to think baddly of us, and cause mental and physical harm (though it would be against the law). ill just be glad when insurance will help cover the necessary stuff i need to get the body i should have been born with.
     
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    I await the day this head line becomes "Being Transgender is no longer considered a social stigma by everyone"
    But this is the first step there.
     
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    yes i cant wait for that either! then ill truly be free to be me