Pope say gays live in a different reality...

San francisco? Beats me.

 

Well imho that sounds like a pretty neat reality to me if it really is an alternate one. One where people are treated equally.

 

LOL @ the bottom:
13 Things The Bible Forbids (That You're Probably Guilty Of Doing)

 

Reality is perspective based. My reality is different from your reality. Also, I feel like it is presumptuous for the Vatican to refer to marriage as a false utopia or even a utopia at all.

Utopia - 1. an ideal place or state. 2. any visionary system of political or social perfection.

I have two issues with the Vatican's use of this word.

Issue 1: Marriage isn't a utopia for anyone. Everyone fights and gets into arguments and the divorce rate of the United States alone is 46%. Doesn't sound like a utopia to me. Marriage is a tough commitment to make the numbers are showing that everyday. It takes work, determination, and love. Utopia comes easy as if a little ball of happiness just fell into your lap.

Issue 2: Wouldn't perfection be equality for all? Where no one had to live any moment in fear of degradation, physical or emotional harm? That would be utopia. Not this marriage where only a select few who are socially accepted be allowed to partake.

I'll end this rant with one word: Bigots.

 

We do live in a different reality. Our reality is to accept diversity and to embrace change but theirs is to reject change and diversity.

 

I swear, ya know, I used to be pretty tolerant of religious people, but I think I am reaching my limit.

 

He lives in a different reality.

 

This actually reminds me of an audience member who last week on BBC Question Time said same-sex marriage is "ontologically impossible". The arguments these stupid bigoted fuckwits come up. Same-sex marriage already exist in some countries and it's going to happen in more.

The pope is the one who living in a reality. While we try to create world where everyone is equal and doesn't have to worry about discrimination, his church is stuck in the 19th century. Join the 21st or fuck off.

 

I'm sick and tired of this hypocritical bigot. What does that old fart do, anyways? It doesn't do anything that benefits this planet in any way. Oh well, at least its time is almost up. What a sad and miserable excuse for a human being.

 

I have no idea what I just read :\

The points in the article seem to jump all over the place from saying we're living in a different reality, to being a threat for further scientific exploitation, to being trendy, and equating marriage equality to the catalyst of society's downfall like economic/social collapse has been in the past.

Equality = end of all things. O-okay. :|

 

Oh, I guess we forgot to mention, we're four-dimensional beings. The fourth being, of course, fabulousness.

 

His reality is putting all of his eggs in the basket of mythology. If he can believe in the unseen and hear the unseen beings voice and see spirits, well, more power to him thinking others are in an alternate reality. The members of that church and all the others pick and chose what they want to believe anyway. It certainly is not love.

 

-facepalm-

 

I wanted to look at the newspaper that Huffington post took the story out of, but was in Italian. Bad translation but here is Google's translation: "Witness chrétien" and the debate over same-sex unions
Marriage
is not a contract any
Lucetta Scaraffia
On several occasions, "Witness chrétien" was measured in mo-do smart with the problems of modernity without leaving Catholic morality. Precisely for this reason very sorry to read in the French magazine unconditional defense of "marriage" gay. Sorry mainly because, in the so-stenere this position, are utilized more mundane matters of political correctness, just as in France is currently a lively discussion on the legalization, in which many lay inter-are against this proposal with good legal arguments, canalitici psychological, philosophical.
Refuse to homosexuals the possibility to establish a contract-BALANCE SHEET but would, in the magazine-is, "add-discrimination to those already too often have been," and the bill in question would be a pas - I-forward in the recognition of equality for homosexuals. Remains unexpressed but logically deduced, the threat that hangs over those who oppose these "marriages" they would be contrary to the equality of gay-ro, so homophobic.
As if you could re-defends the right of people homosexuals not to be subjected to the cradle-discrimination and, at the same time be contrary to grant them marriage. As if the equality of all citizens should be ratified by the cancellation of all differences, denying in this case sexual.
The history and the law teach that the equality of all citizens de-ve always be commensurate with the reality that differences established between them. The rights of children are not those of the elderly, the rights of women are different in some respects from those of men. And this does not mean that no-one does not enjoy equality before the law-: an equality that takes into account the different possibilities, but no less valuable and positive.
Marriage is not only, as he writes, "Witness chrétien," a contract as many others who may or may not work, but it is the institutional link at the base of a family, is the institution created to protect and ensure the parentage , estab-graph to determine rights activist and duties that go between the gen-erations. Since a homosexual couple does not provide affiliation, is a different reality. The utopia of equality, which has already brought so much damage in the Nine-hundred, looks like a new guise, seeking a declaration that the same bonds are not, and starting over, in this way, to deceive humanity as did in
past real socialism. Say that marriage between a man and a woman is the same as between two homosexuals is, in fact, a denial of the truth that undermines one of the basic structures of the com-panies human family. You can not start a company on this basis without paying high prices then, as has already happened in the past when we have tried to achieve a complete economic and social equality. Why repeat the same mistake once again to chase a utopia now worn?
The possibility of homosexuals to raise children "Témoi-gnage chrétien" it is not clear: while on the one hand says that "the right of a child to know their origins is an essential right," the other is understand that it would be conducive to the adoption for gay couples, and invites us to consider the bonds elective higher than those of blood.
Who writes the magazine then seems not to think about the fate of children for adoption in homosexual pairs, already once deprived of their parents, and then forced to live in a state that does not offer them even a simulated natural family. A double-pious diversity heavy to hold.
Moreover we know that the desire to have a child of the pro-PRIO blood - or at least the blood of one of the two members of the torque - prevails in the reality of pairs of homosexuals to adoption, giving rise to new forms of exploitation, such as the buying and selling of gametes and the uterus sum due as lease. If it is undoubtedly true that the problem of three-or same-sex marriage, there are many other "of Sordini-anthropological" on which to intervene, among these we must undoubtedly include those forms of exploitation that new biotechnologies raise and favor, even that in assisted reproduction. And of course the recognition of gay marriage would only estimate molarne other. It is not so easy, as he writes the magazine, distinguish between conjugal, kinship and filiazio-tion. And then, why do it by forcing the original meaning, co-anthropologists and legal, of the family?
Linguists and psychologists are sharing tend to guard society from its clear meaning of the words, the concept of family can not expand dramatically, without destroying the identity of one of the most important institutions of a society, and as is the case for definition of mother and father.
Why not listen to the word of those who report these errors? Being Catholic is much more than a cultural position Ciare embrace fashion, and those responsible for "Témoi-gnage chrétien" - in spite of this-I'm endorsement to same-sex marriage - they know it.

 

Exactly my thoughts. That's irony at its best.

 

As he is ex Hitler Youth why does anything he say surprise anyone??

 

The pope NEEDS to learn WWJD, this guy should have never became pope even Jesus would be shaking his head at him. And we know that because Jesus helped everyone even those the rest looked down on. Christmas time- the time to celebrate- the pop entirely missed the message.