Albums are gone? - Empty Closets - A safe online community for gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered people coming out

Elven · 30th Apr 2009, 12:49 PM

I don't know if I must have pressed something but the two albums I created, one for Profile Pictures and one for Anime Pic's have disappeared?! I don't know did a Mod delete them for some reason or could I have accidently done something?

Shevanel · 30th Apr 2009, 12:51 PM

Copyright Violation most likely.

**Martin** · 30th Apr 2009, 01:08 PM

There has recently been numerous albums removed due to copyright infringement. The picture approval system is being implemented shortly, and before that is done we have been trying to remove as many copyrighted pictures as we can find. It's likely that a few more pictures/albums will disappear before the system is implemented. It's important that such pictures are removed as having them hosted directly on EC's server makes the site liable should the copyright owner decide to go all legal on our ass.

If you believe any removed pictures were not copyrighted then you are welcome to post in Ask The Staff and it can be discussed further there.

Elven · 30th Apr 2009, 01:21 PM

OK well thanks

I highly doubt they were all copyrighted, but then again I don't look into it half the time XD I'll try to snaz up my profile after the updates then :3

GhostDog · 30th Apr 2009, 02:18 PM

Copyright law says that unless the creator of an image specifies otherwise, it is automatically copyrighted. So unless the author of an image says it's public domain or free for use or whatever, assume it's copyrighted. It may vary by country, but the Berne Convention's fairly widespread.

That said, I don't think it likely that an image being re-posted on a forum somewhere is going to offend the author -- I think that's more likely to be the case if you were trying to make money off of it -- but if they wish to control the distribution of their images then it's within their rights. Most people don't have the time or energy to get miffed at people just for re-posting their images on the internet, though!

Just Adam · 30th Apr 2009, 03:31 PM

artists usually like there work used and seen aslong for not financial gain, as it brings them publicity and people can appreciate theyre work. i do alot of edit photoshoping work and anything i create myself i want others to use if they like i dont mind at all

aslong as people know i did it lol

Zac4 · 30th Apr 2009, 06:16 PM

does this mean my avatar is gonna disappear?

**Martin** · 1st May 2009, 03:39 PM

Well we should really remove any pictures that are copyrighted, but realistically it would be impossible to do without going approval/censor crazy. We always say that members should not upload anything they do not own the copyright to, but we know that people will still do it regardless. If somebody complains about an avatar breaching copyright then obviously it will be removed, but I can't see many copyright owners wanting to sue us for a 100 by 100 pixel picture on a forum.

Avatars really would be difficult to approve, so for now I think only removing them if they're sexually explicit or inappropriate is the best approach to take.

30th Apr 2009, 12:49 PM	#1
Elven Life is a Jigsaw ☯ Full Member Gender: ♂ Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to (pretty much) everyone. Location: Shropshire, England Age: 17 Posts: 536 Join Date: Apr 2009	Albums are gone? I don't know if I must have pressed something but the two albums I created, one for Profile Pictures and one for Anime Pic's have disappeared?! I don't know did a Mod delete them for some reason or could I have accidently done something? __________________ Birds of a Feather Flock Together~

30th Apr 2009, 12:51 PM	#2
Shevanel One Is Light. One Is Dark. Full Member Gender: The Dude Orientation: Bi-Winning Out Status: Everybody and Your Mom. Location: Bolivar, Ohio (From NY though) Age: 21 Posts: 7,672 Join Date: Dec 2008	Re: Albums are gone? Copyright Violation most likely. __________________ If there were no rewards to reap, No loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here, I certainly would've walked away by now. Gonna wait it out... Be patient.

30th Apr 2009, 01:08 PM	#3
Martin EC's Red Queen EC Admin Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Merseyside, UK Age: 21 Posts: 8,047 Join Date: Nov 2007	Re: Albums are gone? There has recently been numerous albums removed due to copyright infringement. The picture approval system is being implemented shortly, and before that is done we have been trying to remove as many copyrighted pictures as we can find. It's likely that a few more pictures/albums will disappear before the system is implemented. It's important that such pictures are removed as having them hosted directly on EC's server makes the site liable should the copyright owner decide to go all legal on our ass. If you believe any removed pictures were not copyrighted then you are welcome to post in Ask The Staff and it can be discussed further there.

30th Apr 2009, 01:21 PM	#4
Elven Life is a Jigsaw ☯ Full Member Gender: ♂ Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to (pretty much) everyone. Location: Shropshire, England Age: 17 Posts: 536 Join Date: Apr 2009	Re: Albums are gone? OK well thanks I highly doubt they were all copyrighted, but then again I don't look into it half the time XD I'll try to snaz up my profile after the updates then :3 __________________ Birds of a Feather Flock Together~

30th Apr 2009, 02:18 PM	#5
GhostDog is Spartacus. Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: MAGICAL. Out Status: The hiiills are aliiive with the sound of muuusic! Location: DFW area, Texas Age: 24 Posts: 2,503 Join Date: Apr 2009	Re: Albums are gone? Copyright law says that unless the creator of an image specifies otherwise, it is automatically copyrighted. So unless the author of an image says it's public domain or free for use or whatever, assume it's copyrighted. It may vary by country, but the Berne Convention's fairly widespread. That said, I don't think it likely that an image being re-posted on a forum somewhere is going to offend the author -- I think that's more likely to be the case if you were trying to make money off of it -- but if they wish to control the distribution of their images then it's within their rights. Most people don't have the time or energy to get miffed at people just for re-posting their images on the internet, though! __________________ <3 Kirah, who may or may not be made of delicious candy (and the lesbians)

30th Apr 2009, 03:31 PM	#6
Just Adam Just passing through Full Member Gender: Something Orientation: Dunno Out Status: If they ask i will tell them Location: Wherever Age: 23 Posts: 6,002 Join Date: Mar 2009	Re: Albums are gone? artists usually like there work used and seen aslong for not financial gain, as it brings them publicity and people can appreciate theyre work. i do alot of edit photoshoping work and anything i create myself i want others to use if they like i dont mind at all aslong as people know i did it lol __________________ There Used To Be A Point Of Things.

30th Apr 2009, 06:16 PM	#7
Zac4 dazed n confused Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: not str8 Out Status: Not out at all Location: atlanta Age: 19 Posts: 623 Join Date: Mar 2009	Re: Albums are gone? does this mean my avatar is gonna disappear?

1st May 2009, 03:39 PM	#8
Martin EC's Red Queen EC Admin Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Merseyside, UK Age: 21 Posts: 8,047 Join Date: Nov 2007	Re: Albums are gone? Well we should really remove any pictures that are copyrighted, but realistically it would be impossible to do without going approval/censor crazy. We always say that members should not upload anything they do not own the copyright to, but we know that people will still do it regardless. If somebody complains about an avatar breaching copyright then obviously it will be removed, but I can't see many copyright owners wanting to sue us for a 100 by 100 pixel picture on a forum. Avatars really would be difficult to approve, so for now I think only removing them if they're sexually explicit or inappropriate is the best approach to take.

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