Is it possible for a EC app ?? - Empty Closets - A safe online community for gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered people coming out

HazMattic_Force · 13th May 2010, 01:09 PM

Is it posible to make an Empty Closets.com application for ipodtouch/iphone??

if so i wonder how and everything because i would get that app period XD so just wonder if it is possible / exists already .......... and what do you think about it and what is the requirements for a app in the first place ??

**Martin** · 13th May 2010, 05:22 PM

I'm guessing you mean an app that can give you easy access to the site etc?

The possibility of a mobile/ipod forum skin has been proposed a few times. It would be looked into if there was a good demand for it, but it has only ever really been about 5/6 users displaying an interest for it. There's a lot of proposals being discussed behind the scenes so something with little interest is likely not going to get much notice until there's a demand shown for it.

That is assuming I understood your question correctly. I am only assuming that it would aim to give easy browsing access to members from their phones, but if you have a different idea in mind then feel free to correct moi.

fallendream · 14th May 2010, 02:19 PM

Am i correct in thinking all an app would need to be would be a HTML page accessing a hidden CSS skin (or maybe not a hidden one) with an <iframe>?

totallyfierce · 17th May 2010, 11:17 PM

If there was one available, maybe the demand would increase. Just sayin

Stuie · 18th May 2010, 01:02 AM

I have an iPhone and I really don't see the point of an EC ap. EC is primarily a forum and I can't think of what an ap for a forum would do.

However if you're on an iPhone or iPod touch, you create a home screen bookmark.
Open Safari and then open the + menu, then the second button from the top. Create that bookmark and it will appear on the home screen.

However it would be possibly for EC to make an icon for it when it is displayed on the home screen, but I really think that it would be a waste of time and effort considering few people do it I imagine.

ProfessorLepus · 18th May 2010, 06:30 AM

Perhaps a mobile-optimized version of the site? The top three smartphones today -- iPhone, Android-based phones, and the Palm Pre and Pixi -- use the same rendering engine in their web browsers (WebKit). Theoretically, if we target one platform's web browser for optimizations, we have all three.

Although, one thing that a mobile site can't provide for is notifications. For example, vibrating or playing a ringtone on a new PM. Also, Flashchat won't work on the iPhone, and likely won't, going by recent statements by Steve Jobs.

So, a mobile EC app should address at least those two. Native message integration for PMs and wall posts, and Flashchat. Now, both the forum software here and Flashchat are proprietary, and to my knowledge, do not have any open APIs for development (correct me if I'm wrong). No reason for that to stop us, however.

I think that I'll try making an offsite Flashchat client, and perhaps for the Palm Pre/Pixi. As for PMs and wall posts, that's pretty heavy duty. I'd take it on if I didn't have so many other projects that I'm currently taking on.

18th May 2010, 06:56 AM

http://www.tapatalk.com/ I take it this is what people are after?

Kenko · 18th May 2010, 03:20 PM

An actual iPhone app would be grossly impractical. Cost of iPhone developer licence, actual time required developing the app, hoping it makes it through app approval, all for a handful of users. Maybe it's better if iPhone owners learn that the world doesn't in fact revolve around their mobile phone.

There is a mobile skin. Scroll down to the very bottom of the page to the quick style chooser. If you find a better iPhone compatible skin for vBulletin there's a possibility of it being installed.

If you're worried about notifications you can change the email notifications for the site.

As far as chat, the best bet would be if the chat service was open to an open format like IRC, for which an app from the walled garden could be used.

gaius · 18th May 2010, 06:36 PM

Perhaps an android app would be cheaper without the restrictions from apple? I'm not so sure on the rules for palm, and the palm app could have to go through changes since palm has been bought recently by hp.

ProfessorLepus · 18th May 2010, 08:42 PM

It's tough getting into the Palm app store, a bit easier if your app is open source. You can, however, release an app for Palm independently for free. They also have an SDK and emulator publicly available, and which I am familiar with using. It's actually great fun!

ProfessorLepus · 18th May 2010, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

http://www.tapatalk.com/ I take it this is what people are after?

Yep. That would be it. Doesn't appear to support Flashchat though.

I think I'll try my hand at a Flashchat app for Palm webOS, which would work on the Pre, Pixi, and whatever HP does with webOS.

I'll let you guys know when I have something.

19th May 2010, 12:23 PM

http://www.tufat.com/script126.htm Flash Chat for phones possibly?

ProfessorLepus · 19th May 2010, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

http://www.tufat.com/script126.htm Flash Chat for phones possibly?

Ah, nice. Well, there we go. The solutions are completely upstream.

Miaplacidus · 20th May 2010, 07:59 PM

Anyone having any Objective-C skills? xD

Swamp56 · 20th May 2010, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miaplacidus

Anyone having any Objective-C skills? xD

I hope to hell that Objective-C isn't the only language available for iPhone application development.

That being said, I'm not sure that a lot of people appreciate the difficulty of programming any large application, no matter what language. It takes many many hours and many thousands of lines of code.

**Corny** · 21st May 2010, 02:48 AM

^ cacoa and something else also work. apple is trying their best to restrict you - as always

the new flex builder from adobe allowed cross compilation for iPhone OS .. but at the very same moment apple disallowed that :roll:

Miaplacidus · 21st May 2010, 02:55 AM

Cocoa and Objective-C are very tied to each other from what I read (that being one of the reasons for companies like Adobe and Microsoft to cling to Carbon)... and seeing that Xcode is the only supported way to code for the iPhone, I guess that at least the UI side of things will require a bit of it.

However, I'm pretty sure that regarding backends, C++ can be used. I don't think that apps like Adobe Photoshop or Microsoft Office are coded in Objective-C.

Stuie · 21st May 2010, 06:53 AM

I see the biggest issue not as the potential massive time waste it could be, but before you even consider starting coding it, what the hell would it even do?
Go on chat? Chat's rather dead as of late and you can run it, however it's a HUGE system hog on all phones with Flash and would use a decent amount of Internet I'd imagine for a phone.
Use the forum? Can do that on mobile skin.
Personal messages and wall posts? That's the only thing that the mobile skin cannot do at the moment.

I resolve looking for a smartphone skin, but even then, the only thing is PMs and the wall which considering most people view EC mainly at home, it's not a huge problem.

However for an iPhone ap, I'm strongly against wasting the time on it.

13th May 2010, 01:09 PM	#1
HazMattic_Force EC's Residential Raver Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Age: 19 Posts: 696 Join Date: Apr 2009	Is it possible for a EC app ?? Is it posible to make an Empty Closets.com application for ipodtouch/iphone?? if so i wonder how and everything because i would get that app period XD so just wonder if it is possible / exists already .......... and what do you think about it and what is the requirements for a app in the first place ?? __________________ Humanity is Sadism at its Finest .

13th May 2010, 05:22 PM	#2
Martin EC's Red Queen EC Admin Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Merseyside, UK Age: 21 Posts: 8,047 Join Date: Nov 2007	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? I'm guessing you mean an app that can give you easy access to the site etc? The possibility of a mobile/ipod forum skin has been proposed a few times. It would be looked into if there was a good demand for it, but it has only ever really been about 5/6 users displaying an interest for it. There's a lot of proposals being discussed behind the scenes so something with little interest is likely not going to get much notice until there's a demand shown for it. That is assuming I understood your question correctly. I am only assuming that it would aim to give easy browsing access to members from their phones, but if you have a different idea in mind then feel free to correct moi. __________________ The blue whale ejaculates up to 40 gallons during sexual intercourse, but only 10 gallons enters the female. Do you still wonder why the sea tastes salty?

14th May 2010, 02:19 PM	#3
fallendream EC Addict Full Member Gender: manlyman, hwar! Orientation: i have a floppy wrist? Out Status: i left aslan... Age: 17 Posts: 945 Join Date: Jan 2009	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? Am i correct in thinking all an app would need to be would be a HTML page accessing a hidden CSS skin (or maybe not a hidden one) with an <iframe>? __________________ [seanathon] 1:09 am: You think I'm not naked? [seanathon] 1:09 am: I've got an ice pack tied to my head using socks.

17th May 2010, 11:17 PM	#4
totallyfierce A recovering shopaholic Regular Member Gender: Has a dk Orientation: Loves dk Out Status: Anyone who is reading this Location: California Age: 19 Posts: 35 Join Date: Nov 2009	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? If there was one available, maybe the demand would increase. Just sayin __________________ Losers suck, winners swallow

18th May 2010, 01:02 AM	#5
Stuie Hugs - $POA Full Member Gender: e^(πi) +1 = 0 Orientation: Schnoo Out Status: Moo Cow Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 1,463 Join Date: Aug 2008	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? I have an iPhone and I really don't see the point of an EC ap. EC is primarily a forum and I can't think of what an ap for a forum would do. However if you're on an iPhone or iPod touch, you create a home screen bookmark. Open Safari and then open the + menu, then the second button from the top. Create that bookmark and it will appear on the home screen. However it would be possibly for EC to make an icon for it when it is displayed on the home screen, but I really think that it would be a waste of time and effort considering few people do it I imagine.

18th May 2010, 06:30 AM	#6
ProfessorLepus Colgate Rabbit Dentist Full Member Gender: Mail Orientation: Ghey Out Status: I don't lie. Location: Austin, TX Age: 20 Posts: 445 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? Perhaps a mobile-optimized version of the site? The top three smartphones today -- iPhone, Android-based phones, and the Palm Pre and Pixi -- use the same rendering engine in their web browsers (WebKit). Theoretically, if we target one platform's web browser for optimizations, we have all three. Although, one thing that a mobile site can't provide for is notifications. For example, vibrating or playing a ringtone on a new PM. Also, Flashchat won't work on the iPhone, and likely won't, going by recent statements by Steve Jobs. So, a mobile EC app should address at least those two. Native message integration for PMs and wall posts, and Flashchat. Now, both the forum software here and Flashchat are proprietary, and to my knowledge, do not have any open APIs for development (correct me if I'm wrong). No reason for that to stop us, however. I think that I'll try making an offsite Flashchat client, and perhaps for the Palm Pre/Pixi. As for PMs and wall posts, that's pretty heavy duty. I'd take it on if I didn't have so many other projects that I'm currently taking on. __________________ Anonymity I can not run forever Google will find me

18th May 2010, 06:56 AM	#7
Jiggles Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? http://www.tapatalk.com/ I take it this is what people are after?

18th May 2010, 03:20 PM	#8
Kenko EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few friends + parents Location: Canada Age: 26 Posts: 1,407 Join Date: Jan 2007	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? An actual iPhone app would be grossly impractical. Cost of iPhone developer licence, actual time required developing the app, hoping it makes it through app approval, all for a handful of users. Maybe it's better if iPhone owners learn that the world doesn't in fact revolve around their mobile phone. There is a mobile skin. Scroll down to the very bottom of the page to the quick style chooser. If you find a better iPhone compatible skin for vBulletin there's a possibility of it being installed. If you're worried about notifications you can change the email notifications for the site. As far as chat, the best bet would be if the chat service was open to an open format like IRC, for which an app from the walled garden could be used. __________________ Some of us are at different harmonics, but we all have the same fundamental frequency.

18th May 2010, 06:36 PM	#9
gaius EC's Geordie Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: bi/gay Out Status: Out to friends, family and anyone who wants to kno Location: Lancaster University Age: 22 Posts: 397 Join Date: Dec 2008	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? Perhaps an android app would be cheaper without the restrictions from apple? I'm not so sure on the rules for palm, and the palm app could have to go through changes since palm has been bought recently by hp. __________________ "Life happens without warning"

18th May 2010, 08:42 PM	#10
ProfessorLepus Colgate Rabbit Dentist Full Member Gender: Mail Orientation: Ghey Out Status: I don't lie. Location: Austin, TX Age: 20 Posts: 445 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? It's tough getting into the Palm app store, a bit easier if your app is open source. You can, however, release an app for Palm independently for free. They also have an SDK and emulator publicly available, and which I am familiar with using. It's actually great fun! __________________ Anonymity I can not run forever Google will find me

19th May 2010, 12:23 PM	#12
Jiggles Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? http://www.tufat.com/script126.htm Flash Chat for phones possibly?

20th May 2010, 07:59 PM	#14
Miaplacidus Cheshire Cat Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gayer than not Out Status: Everyone who asks Location: Atlantida, Uruguay Age: 22 Posts: 5,093 Join Date: Feb 2007	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? Anyone having any Objective-C skills? xD __________________ We are all mad here.

21st May 2010, 02:48 AM	#16
Corny Administrators EC Tech Admin Gender: Male Location: Germany (old europe) Age: 30 Posts: 799 Join Date: Dec 2004	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? ^ cacoa and something else also work. apple is trying their best to restrict you - as always the new flex builder from adobe allowed cross compilation for iPhone OS .. but at the very same moment apple disallowed that :roll:

21st May 2010, 02:55 AM	#17
Miaplacidus Cheshire Cat Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gayer than not Out Status: Everyone who asks Location: Atlantida, Uruguay Age: 22 Posts: 5,093 Join Date: Feb 2007	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? Cocoa and Objective-C are very tied to each other from what I read (that being one of the reasons for companies like Adobe and Microsoft to cling to Carbon)... and seeing that Xcode is the only supported way to code for the iPhone, I guess that at least the UI side of things will require a bit of it. However, I'm pretty sure that regarding backends, C++ can be used. I don't think that apps like Adobe Photoshop or Microsoft Office are coded in Objective-C. __________________ We are all mad here.

21st May 2010, 06:53 AM	#18
Stuie Hugs - $POA Full Member Gender: e^(πi) +1 = 0 Orientation: Schnoo Out Status: Moo Cow Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 1,463 Join Date: Aug 2008	Re: Is it possible for a EC app ?? I see the biggest issue not as the potential massive time waste it could be, but before you even consider starting coding it, what the hell would it even do? Go on chat? Chat's rather dead as of late and you can run it, however it's a HUGE system hog on all phones with Flash and would use a decent amount of Internet I'd imagine for a phone. Use the forum? Can do that on mobile skin. Personal messages and wall posts? That's the only thing that the mobile skin cannot do at the moment. I resolve looking for a smartphone skin, but even then, the only thing is PMs and the wall which considering most people view EC mainly at home, it's not a huge problem. However for an iPhone ap, I'm strongly against wasting the time on it. __________________ STRAAAAAAAAAAAWURUWERT AND THE LESBIANS! MADDATRON3000X's (Maddy) Fag Hag Loves Pauline in the form of the equation f(x): (-∞,2) -> R, 2^-x