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Most over-rated comic book characters

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  1. White Knight

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    I'd say heroes but that would leave villians out of the picture so hit them hard... heroes and villains alike.

    Like title says, which characters do you think are overrated, overused and become jokes/annoyances.

    Will drop my list once I can gather my thoughts about them.
     
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    Robin (batman's sidekick) - so many jokes...
     
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    As hard as it is for me to say, probably Batman (DC) and Wolverine (Marvel).

    I know, people are crying heresy. But, hear me out...

    Batman and Wolverine, are heavy fan favorites, so they're prone to being in the limelight a lot. As a result, they get overexposure, their abilities are pushed to the limits, and they seem to be a plot convenience, for whatever arc they are in.

    Batman has become almost mythical in his detective abilities, and being able to outfox anyone. Wolverine has become almost mythical, which is a little more understandable considering his powers, with his ability to just survive. The moment a character, for any reason, becomes a guarantee remedy, be it for a plot point, fight, or conflict, they've jumped the shark and landed in over-rated territory.

    All that said, I like Batman and Wolverine. But I'm not so blinded, that I don't see this flaw in their characters.

    In terms of powers, the old Superman, from the early days to the 1970s. Especially in the older animated cartoons, where he, alone, could have saved the day. He always seemed to unveil a new ability, each and every episode, in each and every predicament. Fortunately, Superman, beginning in the 1980s, received a serious make over, which prevailed into the 1990s.
     
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    Honestly I'd have to say deadpool. Granted I dont know a whole lot about him and its not that I dont like him, i just dont understand the extent of the hype around him I guess. As far as I've seen he just isnt a particularly complex or unique character and depending on the writer he can even come off as annoying at times. That all said I think he definitely a fun concept that has potential in the right hands, but, could easily become redundant at the same time if they arent careful
     
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    Deadpool is a different kind of overrated, he's literally a joke. But that's what makes him awesome!

    I think the boy scout troupe is ridiculous in superheroes. Superman, Cyclops, Captain America; the save the day, 'Murica, don't jaywalk "good guys". It's just over the top unrealistic and makes them into 2D characters.
     
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    Hmm okay let's start.

    First of all Superman. The epitome of superhero is an overblown baloon. So stupidly over-powered they invented a creature, without out any reasonable explanation (they all came afterwards) to kill him. He has everything in super version... even super-knitting powers. Like a site puts it, Superman is a dick. So un-interesting but still people keep him on high regards. I always like Superman with disability type characters like Superboy(especially young justice tv show version), Supergirl... they are more humanly at least.

    Like Kaiser said, Batman and Wolverine. Wolverine inflated with fan reaction over the years... the moment he can regen from a blood drop he ended for me.... that is all kinds of stupid. With that logic you can slice him and have army of Wolverine's. Like that cruel earthworm experiment on our school books which you divide one in two and have two in time. Over exposure and coming up with ridiculous stories what made Batman kind of stale.

    Iron-man... now everyone seems to like him. Movie version only shares one thing with comic one... being a dick. However comic one wasn't even funny. In old days Iron-man comics were like this; a villain by terrible design attacks, his armor malfunctions, he comes up a way to fix it and beat the villain. If you are making a comic book, you should at least spice things up... be creative.

    Joke/comedy characters... Deadpool, Squirell Girl, Lobo you name it. Every generation will have one and only one comedy character done perfectly... Spider-man.

    Wow almost I forgot... Emma Frost. I think she is only on high demand because she dress like a slut, acts like one and she is one. How her outfits stay on her is biggest miracle about her. If you intend to go into battle with a piece of clothing not bigger than your palm over your breast probably you shouldn't wear anything at all... If they didn't afraid called as porn magazines probably they would go for that way. Similar attidute shown towards many female characters over the years but Emma is the worst.

    Not as big as others but also kinda annoyed with Cyborg. I love him but he is not part of Justice League, he is a Titan for me. So just for sake of having an African American hero putting him on big guys league feels fake. They tried to do it with Black Lightning before New 52 but you know "Black" Lightning... like all other "black" characters in the past both in Marvel and DC. Who will they push into our face in couple of years when LGBT become norm? Will they change Alan Scott with Hal? More of a comic company thing than hero but here you have it. Treating people like dirt in the past catches up with you like that I guess.
     
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    DC had/has a good chance, of making their own version of Spiderman, if they play their cards right.

    Since DC acquired Static Shock, they have Static, who is, basically, an urban version of Spiderman. Problem is, since obtaining him, DC has not used him as well as they could have. Which sucks, considering his original comics, are far more realistic than anything the major comic companies have done.

    For one, there's a few gay characters in the Static world. Racism is touched upon at times, and from different perspectives. But since being officially incorporated into DC, Static has lost a lot of what made it edgy, and ahead.
     
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    Damnit Kaiser, I came here to defend my comics, and you actually made some really good points.

    As with all forms of fiction, the more believable a situation is, the more immersive and fun it is to experience. There's definitely been times in the past where they've made it painstakingly blatant that Batman is some goddamn omniscient well of knowledge, and that still sometimes happens to Batman in other forms of media today. However, I think that in the past, I dunno *x years because I don't feel like wikipediaing it* they've acknowledged the change in audience, and have really started catering to it. As can be seen with the angsty colour palettes and more relatable scenarios. Okay, so the scenarios are still ridiculous, but you definitely get more of that inner turmoil and frustration at not being able to connect clues. I feel that he's actually being written as intended; human. I'd almost argue that a big chunk of the content in the Batman comics is him trying to detective shit out. While wading through sewers full of angst.

    Of course what I just said only applies to Batman. Not Detective Comics, Batman Inc, or any of those.

    Additionally, I think Cyborg was a logical choice for the JL, as he is one of the biggest fan favourites since ever. It is kinda weird, him playing with the big boys though.
     
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    I think Cyborg would feel more natural if he included JLA just before New 52 reboot... With Dick being Batman, Donna Troy and Supergirl, he was just in his element.

    I liked that version of JLA much more than old stuff, it was refreshing. I wish they could continue that team up in Earth 2.
     
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    Batman... Don't get me wrong I do like him to a certain extent but they make him come across as invincible...
     
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    Wolverine.

    Not exactly for the reasons that were stated though... I don't mind his power, but just his popularity. And by extension, his over usage.

    Like in the movies, why does every single X Men movie focus on Wolverine? Except First Class... That is the only one. Even in Days of Future Past, a story where Kitty was the main character, they replaced her with Wolverine. I would have loved to see Kitty as the main character of that movie.

    Wolverine is awesome. But jeez, there are other Xmen too.
     
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    Superman, the Joker, and actually most superhero comic book characters. People don't obsess over Sandman characters enough!:angry:

    Omg that angry thing looks disturbingly cute…
     
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    Superman is top on the list. He started the trend of wearing underwear wrong. I have no idea how he got away with it. Red underwear. Bright red.

    He was not a character, he was just a walking alpha male stereotype. His only weakness being a weird rock that conveniently placed/used on idiot plots.
     
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    He he. Cut guy some slack. He lives in world of idiots.

    Lois Lane: Superman
    Supes puts on glasses
    LL: Oh Clark I thought you were Superman for a moment. What are you doing in Superman outfit?

    I never read newish Superman adventures other than JL/A ones so not know the current situation in the comics but back in the day his world was surrounded with idiots. While I think that my unexplainable hots for Jimmy is a bit concerning.

    I always found funny how Kryptonite pop up all around the world and in different colors. One can think that damn planet blown up right next to us.

    By the way other than one brief mention of Joker no one said a thing about any villain. Are villains more well designed than heroes?
     
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    People, on average, look to the heroes to empathize with. Since villains do things, we only imagine when we're, maybe, angry, or would never do, they maintain their interesting status. It's harder to do this with a good guy, without them slipping into anti-hero territory.

    Some villains are pretty lame, you just need to know where to look. But most lame villains, are either dropped and forgotten about, or given a serious make over.
     
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    Only examples for villains over rated are usually become heroes after their over exposure like Magneto. After played by a "hot" actor like Loki. Become nearly anti heroes like Catwoman and Bane.

    Batman is best at what he does... so as Bane. Writers better decide who does better what.

    Till I've read Death of the Family arc I might add Joker to the list, especially with his old clown prince days. However I think Dark Knight's Joker is nothing special or not showcase of how derranged the Joker is. Most impressive things about Joker comes from comics and surprisingly from DCUO... I actually felt myself dirty just by doing some of his missions.
     
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    I think the Superman secret identity thing makes sence. Depending on the story.

    If you really think about it. We know who he is. So similarities are obvious to us. But Clarke and Superman are very different people. Very different personalities. And no one would really suspect Clarke of being Superman, and look closely enough to notice. Sure, if they see both Clarke and Superman very regularly it will be noticible. But most people don't.

    Lois Lane does. And, in some of the stories I have seen, Lois knows. She actually figures it out. Like in the Richard Donner films. But of course, it depends on the story.


    As for villains. Well yeah there is one. But it depends.

    Penguin. From Batman. He is not very interesting to me most of the time. To me, he is too... "Sane" for a batman villian, lol. And there is really nothing about him that I think is really cool or interesting. Most of the time.

    Batman Arkahm City does him very well though. He is so creepy in that game. I love it. Batman returns was good too.
     
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    OMG yesss! The only Superman comic books I enjoy are the ones where Lex Luther is the good guy…I actually sat in on my dad's college class once when I was 10 solely to argue my point that Lex Luther is actually saving the world from Superman. Just think about the collateral damage…more people probably died from Superman in his battles than he saved.
     
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    Superman is underrated.