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| Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: California Posts: 148 Join Date: Apr 2009 | I'm thinking of writing one, I just want to know what cliches I should avoid, any suggestions? |
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| One Is Light. One Is Dark. Full Member ![]() Gender: The Dude Orientation: Bi-Winning Out Status: Everybody and Your Mom. Location: Little Neck, NY Age: 22 Posts: 7,766 Join Date: Dec 2008 | Well I don't read gay teen books or anything, but I know of one cliche that happens in so many damn LGBT movies and really makes them shittier than they already are. The whole "gay boy crushes on 'straight boy' -> Gay boy makes straight boy question himself -> straight boy falls for gay boy -> Gay boy reveals he's dying of some type of STD but their love is stronger." Seriously.
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| Flappychap Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Oregon, USA Age: 29 Posts: 6,716 Join Date: May 2008 | dont just have a gay nerd fall in love with a super hawt gay guy *twilightesque, or vice versa. no rough sex with broken headboards, with the bottom waking up12 hours later after being knocked out *twilightesque* in the end, just avvoid anything remotely twilight like. |
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| EC's Nu-Disco Walrus Full Member ![]() Gender: IRL Yaoi Character Orientation: (。◕‿◕。) Out Status: ㅎ_ㅎ Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 23 Posts: 7,111 Join Date: Oct 2007 | Or, from the perspective of the Straight boy liking the gay boy. I once watched this ONE movie. WHERE the whole thing was...Gay couple dates..They fall in love...They fight...they break up....they say sorry...they fall in love..guy sleeps around...they break up...They fall in love again at a wedding...Fights at the wedding...almost breaks up then GUY falls in love with the other guy again. Was it satirical? Nope. Dead serious and REALLY REALLY awful. I think the better stories about sexuality is from the view point of the family rather then just the individual. I always find that the more honest the story the better it works. Instead of telling the story of guy a/ guy b expand into more possibilties. How does it impact their family/friends. Maybe a story from the persepctive of the straight guy trying to accept his gay friend as he begins to date. Maybe their brothers?
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| ninja. Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Everyone but extended family. Location: New Hampshire Age: 18 Posts: 670 Join Date: Mar 2010 | "Gay boy makes 'straight' boy realize he's gay." Just no. If any cliche is used, just don't make it that.
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Dick Orientation: Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 25 Posts: 7,611 Join Date: Jun 2005 | Here's a cliche to avoid too. Gay couple falls in love. Plain and simple Why does EVERY SINGLE GAY STORY have the happily ever after? It's not that way in real life, so stop making it that way every time in books ![]() Besides, we have enough romances as it is....
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| One Is Light. One Is Dark. Full Member ![]() Gender: The Dude Orientation: Bi-Winning Out Status: Everybody and Your Mom. Location: Little Neck, NY Age: 22 Posts: 7,766 Join Date: Dec 2008 | Oh, and notice how there are never any virgins in these movies? I dont know about literature, but I feel like so many main characters in these films are sluts. (Like in Get Real, he'd meet guys at a public bathroom!? That totally turned me off from that horrible movie xD). Is it so hard to have a non sexually active story...?
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| EC's Nu-Disco Walrus Full Member ![]() Gender: IRL Yaoi Character Orientation: (。◕‿◕。) Out Status: ㅎ_ㅎ Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 23 Posts: 7,111 Join Date: Oct 2007 | What was that gay surfing film, that was suppose to be so good, but turned out rubbish?
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| One Is Light. One Is Dark. Full Member ![]() Gender: The Dude Orientation: Bi-Winning Out Status: Everybody and Your Mom. Location: Little Neck, NY Age: 22 Posts: 7,766 Join Date: Dec 2008 | Shelter? I didn't see it.
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| professional lurker Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: bisexual prefering males Out Status: don't ask don't tell (ask and I'll tell) Location: oakville(college) and oshawa(hometown) ont, Canada Age: 23 Posts: 1,101 Join Date: Apr 2009 | hmn... well sadly it's gotta be a comedy of sorts, or a murder mystery, or a drama. it's ok to use some of the cliches at points, just not as the entire storyline. Something I know I like reading is the different viewpoints fo the characters in the story.
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| Guest | Please, pleeeease don't include the typical homophobic bully who in a 'surprising twist' turns out to be a closeted gay guy. |
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| May all beings be happy EC Advisor ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Mostly homosexual, panromantic Out Status: Out to eveyone as gay, a few as panromantic Location: Alaska Age: 23 Posts: 3,108 Join Date: Mar 2010 | Quote:
And the list goes on. | |
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| Charles Full Member ![]() Gender: Queer Orientation: Queer Out Status: All but family Location: Saint Paul Age: 22 Posts: 429 Join Date: Aug 2007 | Funny, I actually read an academic piece last term about how gay teen lit actually reinforces the notion of heterosexual gender norms existing in gay relationships, as well as the idea that the outside world is incredibly homophobic, as another poster mentioned. So you might want to avoid doing those things. ![]()
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| And all that counts is here and now Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Something Out Status: Some people Location: Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 146 Join Date: Dec 2009 | |
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| Getting Into The Groove! :) Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Detroit Age: 26 Posts: 507 Join Date: Sep 2008 | Quote:
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Anyway, back on topic. I kinda like the gay romances where they go on happily ever after. Call me a sap, or a romantic, but I like it. That's just me. ![]() Anyway, some cliches to avoid: 1. Having the two guys be Abercrombie & Fitch type hunks. Seriously. Not everyone is a model, and it'll make the story more interesting and relatable if the characters are normal everyday people. 2. Unless the story is specifically about AIDS or some other disease and dealing with it, please do not have one of the characters suddenly contract and die from it. And please don't have one of the characters suffer from some tragic accident. It's old. That's all I can really think of right now. Best of luck! | ||
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