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**Mogget** · 18th Nov 2011, 12:13 AM

After tonight's episode, I'm not sure I can continue watching the show. Amy is developing a sexuality, okay, I don't like it, but I can deal with that, but

Spoiler

Has BBT jumped the shark? I think it may have. I hate to say it, but I suspect that there will only be four, at best four and a quarter, worthwhile seasons of BBT.

Jessica816 · 18th Nov 2011, 12:29 AM

I loved this show, then I watched the last few new episodes and I'm just not sure about it...Sheldon and Amy are "Boyfriend and girlfriend" now that's just kinda strange for me..Loved the show when it first started now I'm starring to wonder if its worth watching anymore..Kinda sad

Pseudojim · 18th Nov 2011, 03:03 AM

I have laughed once, ever at that show, and it was when sheldon was describing how ridiculous the concept of gift giving was. Besides that, i can hardly be in the room when it's on!

However.... One funny moment means it's worth it =D

sokk · 20th Nov 2011, 01:58 AM

I am sooooo glad I dumped this sh*tfest when I did. I couldn't stand Amy, so I decided to stop watching when the writers pushed her in our faces. She is sooo annoying and too over the top, and isn't even funny. Yes, the others are over the top too, but at least they're funny. And how Amy talks about sex and orgasms every 5 minutes is creeping me out. Not funny, not cute, but embarrassing and awkward and cringeworthy. Yes, the others talk about sex too, but not to this degree, and they also talk about OTHER THINGS besides sex. Amy is just sex, orgasms, blah blah.. puke!

I am sooo glad I left this train wreck when I did. It was one of the best decisions I ever made. I haven't watched since last year when I read Amy would be a part of the cast. I want to remember TBBT at its best, and I will never forget seasons 1-3. TBBT after season 3 doesn't exist for me.

Kerze · 20th Nov 2011, 02:10 AM

It's gone downhill so much this season. Sheldon and Penny were the best characters and they're turning him into a 'real person' and her into a boring alcoholic and it just sucks.

Veronica · 20th Nov 2011, 07:01 AM

It's simple really, and not at all surprising, they're running out of ideas. It is still watchable.

anatta · 22nd Nov 2011, 12:53 AM

The character of Amy has become a lot more fleshed out and interesting since she's been given a larger role. She's not just another Sheldon anymore.

I don't mind Sheldon and Amy so far, they've handled it quite believably I think, from my perspective as an asexual with a romantic side. It is quite possible to be jealous and possessive when a special friend might get a sexual partner despite not being sexually attracted to them yourself, because asexuals often (though not always!) develop some level of understanding as to what sex can represent to sexuals.

**Mogget** · 23rd Nov 2011, 11:21 PM

I can't see Sheldon as being anything other than aromantic, being asexual just isn't enough.

Aielar · 26th Nov 2011, 10:03 AM

I'm not sure if it's a good thing that Amy and Sheldon get together, but I'm willing to stick around, watch it when I can, and decide from there. As far as I'm concerned, it's certainly bearable.

sokk · 27th Nov 2011, 04:54 AM

I am soooo glad I left the show when I did. What a pathetic train wreck this has become. Pairing Sheldon with Amy is the lowest of low. Whatever. The show is dead to me.

Danielle · 27th Nov 2011, 05:15 AM

I haven't been watching season five but I have loved the show until then and I see no reason to stop watching.

anatta · 27th Nov 2011, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam

I can't see Sheldon as being anything other than aromantic, being asexual just isn't enough.

If romantic means wanting to hold hands, feed your partner and gaze soppily into their eyes then I agree with you. However Sheldon even specified the situations in which hand-holding will be tolerated in his Relationship Agreement, so he is not really changing that much and is still not interested in a typical romance at all.

I'm still finding I relate very strongly to Sheldon, in fact maybe that's why I like what they're doing, because my extreme confusion around what my feelings mean and how I'm comfortable acting on them is not something I've seen played out on screen before.

To this day all I know is that I get feelings for people that are different than the strong feelings I have for others, but that whatever they are they aren't the kind that make people comfortable with heightened physical intimacy, because they don't for me.

Blakqsh33p · 27th Nov 2011, 02:05 PM

I own seasons 1-4. I love this show and always will, it's amazing how much Sheldon changed throughout the seasons and I can't wait to see more

DJT · 5th Dec 2011, 01:35 PM

I completely LOVE this show! and i love Amy Farrah Fowler. she's a girl sheldon, and has really funny lines. Also this might just be me but, i'm picking up a strong vibe that Amy has a thing for Penny!! LGBT character in The Big Bang Theory? me thinks so! JK Lol Anyways. great show love it!!

**Mogget** · 5th Dec 2011, 02:08 PM

Oh yes, Amy's bi. Last season she had the hots for Pria in a big way. And Raj and Howard have so much subtext that it's hard not to draw conclusions.

anatta · 5th Dec 2011, 02:42 PM

Yeah I think Raj is supposed to be closeted bi to some extent. Possibly closeted gay, but him just pretending to like girls this whole time as well would be a bit too heavy for the show, and it wouldn't make sense that he can't speak to women.

Howard seems to have a slight thing for Raj too but probably more romantic and void of a sexual element that would let anything happen.

I found out recently that there are Leonard-Sheldon shippers. Never would have anticipated that, can't imagine them together at all.

dreamcatcher · 5th Dec 2011, 03:34 PM

It never really hit me that Amy was bi until people here started mentioning it. I guess I just assumed she was super horny and lonely and never really attributed anything else to it. As for Howard and Raj, there's always been a serious bromance going on there. I don't think there is any significance to it, I just think Chuck Lorre uses their bromance as comedy and not necessarily to indicate that Raj is a closeted gay/bisexual.

I personally like Sheldon with Amy. He's evolving as a character. As much as I like Sheldon the way he is, I don't think his personality has changed substantially. I think they did a good job in showing the buildup of his relationship with Amy. As long as Sheldon remains asexual, I am still on board with the show.

**Mogget** · 5th Dec 2011, 04:25 PM

I really doubt the writers are well-educated on queer issues enough to have the idea of a romantic asexual. Sheldon's gonna have sex

sokk · 7th Dec 2011, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam

I really doubt the writers are well-educated on queer issues enough to have the idea of a romantic asexual. Sheldon's gonna have sex

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So glad I left the show when I did

feverdreamt · 8th Dec 2011, 12:36 AM

I actually really like the show

..... Oh and apparently the actor that plays Sheldon (forgot his name) is gay

18th Nov 2011, 12:13 AM	#1
Mogget Mad and dead as nails EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Kinsey 5 or 6. It varies Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Alaska Age: 22 Posts: 2,026 Join Date: Mar 2010	Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam After tonight's episode, I'm not sure I can continue watching the show. Amy is developing a sexuality, okay, I don't like it, but I can deal with that, but Spoiler Sheldon asking Amy to be his girlfriend? No. Not acceptable. It's getting clearer and clearer that the writers are going to have Sheldon lose his virginity, and that's just wrong. On so many levels. Has BBT jumped the shark? I think it may have. I hate to say it, but I suspect that there will only be four, at best four and a quarter, worthwhile seasons of BBT. __________________ "As to what I am, I once was many things but now I am only several." - Mogget in Sabriel by Garth Nix "The world is quiet here." - VFD

18th Nov 2011, 12:29 AM	#2
Jessica816 EC Addict Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bi-romantic lesbian? Still working on it Out Status: Out loud and so very proud Location: Kansas city, Mo Age: 23 Posts: 255 Join Date: Nov 2011	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam I loved this show, then I watched the last few new episodes and I'm just not sure about it...Sheldon and Amy are "Boyfriend and girlfriend" now that's just kinda strange for me..Loved the show when it first started now I'm starring to wonder if its worth watching anymore..Kinda sad __________________ "Every gay and lesbian person who has been lucky enough to survive the turmoil of growing up is a survivor. Survivors always have an obligation to those who will face the same challenges."

18th Nov 2011, 03:03 AM	#3
Pseudojim Part robot Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Bi - Kinsey 2ish Out Status: All but family Location: Australia Age: 27 Posts: 2,154 Join Date: Sep 2009	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam I have laughed once, ever at that show, and it was when sheldon was describing how ridiculous the concept of gift giving was. Besides that, i can hardly be in the room when it's on! However.... One funny moment means it's worth it =D

20th Nov 2011, 01:58 AM	#4
sokk EC Addict Regular Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: The closet is my friend Location: Norway Age: 24 Posts: 312 Join Date: Dec 2009	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam I am sooooo glad I dumped this sh*tfest when I did. I couldn't stand Amy, so I decided to stop watching when the writers pushed her in our faces. She is sooo annoying and too over the top, and isn't even funny. Yes, the others are over the top too, but at least they're funny. And how Amy talks about sex and orgasms every 5 minutes is creeping me out. Not funny, not cute, but embarrassing and awkward and cringeworthy. Yes, the others talk about sex too, but not to this degree, and they also talk about OTHER THINGS besides sex. Amy is just sex, orgasms, blah blah.. puke! I am sooo glad I left this train wreck when I did. It was one of the best decisions I ever made. I haven't watched since last year when I read Amy would be a part of the cast. I want to remember TBBT at its best, and I will never forget seasons 1-3. TBBT after season 3 doesn't exist for me. __________________ John: "Oh please.. can we not do this this time?" Sherlock: "Do what?" John: "You.. being all mysterious with your cheekbones and turning your coat collar up so you look cool." Sherlock: "I don't do that." John: "Yes, you do."

20th Nov 2011, 02:10 AM	#5
Kerze Formerly Concretehands Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: two Location: London Town Age: 17 Posts: 1,297 Join Date: Aug 2010	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam It's gone downhill so much this season. Sheldon and Penny were the best characters and they're turning him into a 'real person' and her into a boring alcoholic and it just sucks. __________________ Please Understand. We don't want no trouble, we just want the right to be different. That's all. - Pulp/Different Class

20th Nov 2011, 07:01 AM	#6
Veronica Princess of darkness Full Member Gender: Female (MtF) Orientation: ❤ women Out Status: A few friends Location: Europe Age: 35 Posts: 704 Join Date: Aug 2011	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam It's simple really, and not at all surprising, they're running out of ideas. It is still watchable. __________________ "When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others."

22nd Nov 2011, 12:53 AM	#7
anatta Member Regular Member Gender: Female sex, fluid gender Orientation: Panromantic Asexual Out Status: Explaining usually feels too awkward. Posts: 61 Join Date: Nov 2011	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam The character of Amy has become a lot more fleshed out and interesting since she's been given a larger role. She's not just another Sheldon anymore. I don't mind Sheldon and Amy so far, they've handled it quite believably I think, from my perspective as an asexual with a romantic side. It is quite possible to be jealous and possessive when a special friend might get a sexual partner despite not being sexually attracted to them yourself, because asexuals often (though not always!) develop some level of understanding as to what sex can represent to sexuals. __________________ Effeminophobia is a feminist issue too. If society didn't revere masculine qualities so much over feminine ones, "sissy" would have no more negative connotations than "tomboy", and a male teletubby with a bag would be seen as no more corrupting than the female teletubby with a scooter.

23rd Nov 2011, 11:21 PM	#8
Mogget Mad and dead as nails EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Kinsey 5 or 6. It varies Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Alaska Age: 22 Posts: 2,026 Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam I can't see Sheldon as being anything other than aromantic, being asexual just isn't enough. __________________ "As to what I am, I once was many things but now I am only several." - Mogget in Sabriel by Garth Nix "The world is quiet here." - VFD

26th Nov 2011, 10:03 AM	#9
Aielar Timmies Lover <3 Full Member Gender: Possibly bigendered? Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: All but family Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 221 Join Date: Nov 2011	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam I'm not sure if it's a good thing that Amy and Sheldon get together, but I'm willing to stick around, watch it when I can, and decide from there. As far as I'm concerned, it's certainly bearable.

27th Nov 2011, 04:54 AM	#10
sokk EC Addict Regular Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: The closet is my friend Location: Norway Age: 24 Posts: 312 Join Date: Dec 2009	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam I am soooo glad I left the show when I did. What a pathetic train wreck this has become. Pairing Sheldon with Amy is the lowest of low. Whatever. The show is dead to me. __________________ John: "Oh please.. can we not do this this time?" Sherlock: "Do what?" John: "You.. being all mysterious with your cheekbones and turning your coat collar up so you look cool." Sherlock: "I don't do that." John: "Yes, you do."

27th Nov 2011, 05:15 AM	#11
Danielle EC Addict Full Member Gender: Transgender - MtF Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Most people Location: NSW, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 525 Join Date: Aug 2008	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam I haven't been watching season five but I have loved the show until then and I see no reason to stop watching. __________________ Homophobia is gay.

27th Nov 2011, 02:05 PM	#13
Blakqsh33p Have you any wool?! Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Tampa Age: 24 Posts: 226 Join Date: Jul 2011	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam I own seasons 1-4. I love this show and always will, it's amazing how much Sheldon changed throughout the seasons and I can't wait to see more __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ Bisexuality immediately doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night.

5th Dec 2011, 01:35 PM	#14
DJT EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: I'm having adventures in Narnia, with Aslan Location: England - Preston Age: 18 Posts: 413 Join Date: Dec 2011	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam I completely LOVE this show! and i love Amy Farrah Fowler. she's a girl sheldon, and has really funny lines. Also this might just be me but, i'm picking up a strong vibe that Amy has a thing for Penny!! LGBT character in The Big Bang Theory? me thinks so! JK Lol Anyways. great show love it!!

5th Dec 2011, 02:08 PM	#15
Mogget Mad and dead as nails EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Kinsey 5 or 6. It varies Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Alaska Age: 22 Posts: 2,026 Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam Oh yes, Amy's bi. Last season she had the hots for Pria in a big way. And Raj and Howard have so much subtext that it's hard not to draw conclusions. __________________ "As to what I am, I once was many things but now I am only several." - Mogget in Sabriel by Garth Nix "The world is quiet here." - VFD

5th Dec 2011, 02:42 PM	#16
anatta Member Regular Member Gender: Female sex, fluid gender Orientation: Panromantic Asexual Out Status: Explaining usually feels too awkward. Posts: 61 Join Date: Nov 2011	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam Yeah I think Raj is supposed to be closeted bi to some extent. Possibly closeted gay, but him just pretending to like girls this whole time as well would be a bit too heavy for the show, and it wouldn't make sense that he can't speak to women. Howard seems to have a slight thing for Raj too but probably more romantic and void of a sexual element that would let anything happen. I found out recently that there are Leonard-Sheldon shippers. Never would have anticipated that, can't imagine them together at all. __________________ Effeminophobia is a feminist issue too. If society didn't revere masculine qualities so much over feminine ones, "sissy" would have no more negative connotations than "tomboy", and a male teletubby with a bag would be seen as no more corrupting than the female teletubby with a scooter. Last edited by anatta; 5th Dec 2011 at 02:49 PM..

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5th Dec 2011, 03:34 PM	#17
dreamcatcher EC Addict Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: lesbian and still working on accepting it Out Status: A few people Location: Florida Age: 20 Posts: 305 Join Date: Oct 2011	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam It never really hit me that Amy was bi until people here started mentioning it. I guess I just assumed she was super horny and lonely and never really attributed anything else to it. As for Howard and Raj, there's always been a serious bromance going on there. I don't think there is any significance to it, I just think Chuck Lorre uses their bromance as comedy and not necessarily to indicate that Raj is a closeted gay/bisexual. I personally like Sheldon with Amy. He's evolving as a character. As much as I like Sheldon the way he is, I don't think his personality has changed substantially. I think they did a good job in showing the buildup of his relationship with Amy. As long as Sheldon remains asexual, I am still on board with the show.

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Mogget Mad and dead as nails EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Kinsey 5 or 6. It varies Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Alaska Age: 22 Posts: 2,026 Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam I really doubt the writers are well-educated on queer issues enough to have the idea of a romantic asexual. Sheldon's gonna have sex __________________ "As to what I am, I once was many things but now I am only several." - Mogget in Sabriel by Garth Nix "The world is quiet here." - VFD

8th Dec 2011, 12:36 AM	#20
feverdreamt Member Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Not out at all Location: california Age: 18 Posts: 71 Join Date: Sep 2011	Re: Yet another Big Bang Theory post from Liam I actually really like the show ..... Oh and apparently the actor that plays Sheldon (forgot his name) is gay