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How many % gay love songs

Discussion in 'Entertainment and Technology' started by Dustin Broke, Jun 27, 2013.

  1. Dustin Broke

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    I was wondering about this but how many % would you say they there are gay love songs like a guy saying about another guy type pop music that are on the radio? Like is it 30% songs are gay or is it less? I just assume there aren't more gay songs than straights but I assume that at least around 30% should be gay love songs on the radio right?
     
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    You, my friend, are far too optimistic.
     
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    Er... If I had to give a percent, it'd be less than 1%. The radio plays what people like and can relate to. In general, that would not be gay love songs.
     
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    I know of none.
    Not that many gay artists in the first place.
     
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    I have only ever heard one gay love song on the radio, but it isn't so much a love song I guess. I don't really know what it is. The some is Same Love by macklemore and Ryan Lewis.
     
  6. Dustin Broke

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    REALLY???? Are you serious guys that they aren't even 1% gay songs???? It's hard to believe since at least 15% people are gay so I would say at least maybe 15% would be gay songs right? It's hard to believe it would be 1%. Everyone is not straight 15% are gay like me.
     
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    Um... No. The percent of gay people is not at least 15%. It's lower.

    Also, it's hard to give definitive answers of what constitutes being gay. Same sex attraction? Acting on that attraction? And how would an accurate study be conducted to see what percent of the population would be gay ?
     
  8. Dustin Broke

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    Ok maybe 30% was little too much assuming but it got to be at least 15% since that's how many people are gay. Yes it is 15% I researched it online and 15% people are gay.
     
  9. King

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    I can think of about 0 gay love songs, especially in pop music.

    30% is a really big number.

    Quite a few pop songs about love are usually gender neutral anyway.

    EDIT: 15% is wrong and I'd be willing to bet money on that.

    EDIT2: Also just because, hypothetically, 15% of people are gay doesn't mean that any one of those 15% of gay people have managed a recording career. I can think of a few gay artists, but their songs are all gender neutral or bending towards the opposite gender.
     
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  10. Dustin Broke

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    When I say gay I mean of course two guys loving each other. I was wondering if there were songs on the radio that a guy sings and says about another guy and how hot or good he is.
     
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    ...Okay. Do you have a source for 15% of people being gay? 'Cause online research is, by nature, many times inaccurate.
     
  12. Dustin Broke

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    Well I thought there are songs on the radio that have a guy singing or so maybe a hip hop type song.

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    Are there hip hop or pop songs that have gay love songs on the radio.
     
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    I think that gay people are generally scared to make those kinds of songs because they don't know what the general population will say.
     
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    there are plenty of songs in general about same sex relations, but i doubt many on the radio. I dont really listen to the radio as the crapness depresses me
     
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    Have you listened to De-li-lah? The only gay love songs she plays are by accident. She lectures people that want a song dedicated to a gay partner.
     
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    There is no accurate representation of the gay percentage.

    A lot of studies suggest it is 1-5% but I know A LOT of gay guys would never admit it even in an anonymous survey. As well it is impossible to get an accurate representation of a minority group when it is still taboo in many areas, illegal.....etc.

    Again, studies have found gay populations close to 15% in urban areas; more liberal people are more willing to admit it, and rural areas are around the 1-5% mark. Though one can argue that gay people flock to urban centres, I can attest that I hate the city and am gay. I also know, or "hooked" up with a bunch of guys and the majority were from the country. They were so deep in the closet, it really made me open my eyes to how underrepresented we are.

    Yes liberal countries like Norway have found similar findings 1-5%, but I still think it is significantly higher, because despite an area being liberal, there is no place on earth were everyone doesn't care about being gay.

    Even if you have the possibility of accepting it, a lot of people are homophobic towards themselves, and that is enough to keep you in the closet.

    So yea I'd say around 7% is more accurate; a significant chunk of homos have to be lying I would.

    To answer the OP's question, I'd say like 0.001% like 1 in a thousand songs on the radio are gay love songs. I mean fuck who is an openly gay musician, fucking Elton John(he wrote hits about heterosexual love).

    The Smiths from the 80's are the only band I can think of that had gay love songs get fair radio play and I never hear it anymore. The song "This Charming Man" is clearly a gay song, it is also a very cuveted song amongst 80's rock fans. I love the Smiths and they're the only group or artist I can think of that has homosexuals in it and actually wrote homosexual songs.

    Morrissey is a great role model for gay people too bad too many of us are obsessed with no-talent-products like Lady Gaga, Madonna and other female pop artists using gay people to make more record sales.

    Queen.... all heterosexual
    REM(lead singer is gay) .... all heterosexual
    Elton John .... all heterosexual

    FUCK I forgot about the YMCA it's all about gay sex. Did you know that there are straight members in the village people so even that song isn't legit homosexual since the group members were pretending to be homosexual to make money appealing to a niche audience.

    PS Love Songs are the lowest common denominator when it comes to writing music. If you can write a song void of love that appeals to people you already worked harder than anyone that writes the same-old same-old I love this I love that song. It is harder to connect to a mass audience when you aren't discussing something that EVERYONE goes through.
     
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    I think this is one of the main reasons - until very very recently there were very few out gay artists - those that did either didn't have hits with mainstream with love songs (think Bronski Beat, REM, Erasure, Pet Shop Boys, David Bowie) or did the whole love songs thing before coming out (Elton John, Stephen Gately (Boyzone), Mark Feehily (Westlife), Darren Hayes (Savage Garden)).

    It's only been the last decade you've really had artists that have come out at or near the start of there career (Will Young, Union J's Jaymi Hensley, Adam Lambert) and they haven't released gay love songs either (at least on their singles) - but even now you get people like Kele Okereke of Bloc Party who have a good 5 years of a career before they come out.

    Popular music which receives regular air play here in the UK spans about the last 40 years, for only around 15 years of that have artists come out on there own accord (since Stephen Gately in 1998 - although if he didn't he was going to be outed), only a decade have they come out near the start of there career (since Will Young in 2002 - although if he didn't he was going to be outed too), and it's only really been the last half dozen years where artists have been out since the start of there careers without being forced out.

    So if you do the simple maths - 40 years of music receiving regular airplay, artists being out on there own terms for a maximum 25% of that time. If we assume that 10% of the population is gay and it's a 50:50 split between artists and groups you've got 1.25% of songs released by artists who are gay and who have released since it's been "okay to be gay" - but then within that many of the songs released since 2002 will have been from those who started before Will Young came out reducing the percentage even more, many will still be in the closet and much of that time period has been centred on Indie Rock, RnB, and the recent revival of Dance music - genres which have not been particular hot beds of love songs, and even those who are out have kept it gender neutral anyway. So when the majority of love songs are from the 70s - 90s when it was better to be closeted if you wanted a career and you still, in 2013, would struggle to get any song which is blatantly "gay" into the charts it's not surprising that percentage of love songs is pretty much 0%.

    Those artists that are gay and sing about gay relationships tend to get played on specialist programmes on the digital stations (e.g. Patrick Wolf and Orphans and Vandals being pretty much stuck to BBC 6 Music with the odd Radio 1 airplay) but still they ain't love songs.

    Simple test to show how few gay love songs are on the radio - tune into Magic Love Zone from midnight, or Steve Wrights Sunday Love Songs - week in week out it's the same song's, every single one about a man and a women, or at the very least gender neautral - and these are the tunes that make up the vast majority of love songs played on the radio. A fair old number will be from Savage Garden, Westlife, Boyzone, Elton John though... If the gay artists and groups with gay artists aren't singing about gay love then there won't be gay love songs on the radio. Now tune into a radio station / programme aimed at the LGBT community and count the number of blatantly gay songs - probably less than 2% (maybe as high as 10% if it's just a programme on a more mainstream station) and then count how many of them are love songs - hmm, don't hold your breath while doing that!

    The sole song that I hear regularly on the main stream stations that even hints there is something other than male+female relationships is Blur's Girls and Boys.
     
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    Yes, I'm well aware there is no good representation of a gay population. Inherently there is no way to accurately paint a picture of a true percentage that represents us. However, there's no way it's "at least 15%". As a whole... There's no way. If you threw in bisexual people and people who have had some sort of same-sex attraction and/or action, then sure. But otherwise, no.

    I still think the OP was... mislead. If anything, 15% is too large a number of gay people.

    As for same-sex love songs... There's, er, Katy Perry's I Kissed A Girl... I have no idea if that actually counts. Poker Face by Lady Gaga is apparently about fantasizing about being with a woman when you're with a man. Hm.
     
  20. 15% is a huuuuge overestimation I have about 40 or 50 arists I REALLY like and listen to all the time along with a ton of other groups I check out (I like to listen to a new album ever 2 or 3 days.) I like to think my groups are fairly varied in terms of genre and in those groups I know of one openly gay guy. (I don't exactly count Morrisey because he's pretty much asexual from everything I read about him and not into that whole labels thing. Same goes for Bowie who called coming out as bi "The biggest mistake I have ever made.")

    In terms of popular songs that have a gay message I can think of exactly 2 songs. (Born This Way and that Macklemore one.)

    So I'm gonna say a lot less than 15%
     
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