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Discussion in 'Family, Friends, and Relationships' started by Gingerblond93, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. Gingerblond93

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    Hi, I'm brand new here and so far this seems like a totally cool site that is very helpful. I was thinking my situation was really odd and tough to handle but I can see I'm totally not alone when it comes to complex situations.

    Here is my situation, the nickle tour :slight_smile:. I always knew I was gay from very young. I first kissed a boy in second grade and totally loved it. But sadly like most gay boys, I eventually hid it and pretended to be straight. I even dated a girl when I was 13 and I could not get into it. So, I kept hidden and in the closet. I had other girls show interest in me but I never followed through. I just did not want to get involved in a complicated situation with a girl which only I knew would not work, cause I was gay and not straight.

    So I focused on my other love which is cars. I became obsessed with them which helped me hide and avoid my sexuality for a few years. However, that changed when I was 16 and I went to a local car show. I saw this car, a 1969 Oldsmobile 442 and I was in love with the car. I looked every inch of the car over and began talking to the owner, who just happened to be as hot looking as his car. So, now I'm not only in love with this car, this guy is totally hot and has my attention. I was wearing a pair of skinny jeans, tight tee shirt and high top sneakers, so I knew I was looking good but was not totally sure if this guy was gay, as he had a woman with him and a couple of kids. Well happily the woman, ended up being his sister along with her son and daughter.

    So to make a long story short, we talked about cars for a good couple of hours and he gave me his number and offered to let me drive the car after the show was over and he brought his sister, nephew and niece home.

    We ended up going out that night, he let me drive the car, I was totally in love with the car and with him too but I did nothing at all to let him know I was gay and interested in him. We ended up becoming good friends and hung out a lot, we worked on his car, went for hikes, movies and out to dinner but nothing sexual or intimate for the first few months.

    Our friendship eventually became much more intimate and we ended up coming out to each other. I had sex for the first time 3 months after we met. It was as powerful as I had thought it would be during countless nights of masturbating to gay porn.

    We've remained best friends and lovers ever since, but I never came out in terms of being gay to my family and only a few close friends know I'm gay and I've been hiding our relationship for almost 4 years. It's been really hard to keep it hidden, with a few close calls and last summer my father confronted me on my relationship with my bf . He asked me if I was gay and if my friend is my bf. And I chickened out and told my father that I am not gay and that my friend is not my bf and were only good friends with a lot in common.

    The main reason I have kept the relationship hidden is my bf is 18 years older than me. I'm afraid my family and my friends wont be able to accept me dating someone so much older. My BF would like for us to come out together, he said he is there for me and I know he will be. But I just don't know if I am ready to deal with all of the questions and conversations this may lead to.

    What would you do?
     
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    Come out when you are ready to come out. There will always be uncertainties with people's reactions. When I came out, I thought my mother would be accepting and my father wouldn't be. Turns out, it was the total opposite, my father seems ok with it. My mother, however, refuses to acknowledge anything about my love life. And I am ok with that, if she chooses not to want anything to do with it, it is also my choice not to share it with her.

    I came out when I was dating a guy 20 years older than me. My parents knew I was dating someone but they didn't know the age. To me, it is none of their business how old your partner is, only that they know that you are, in fact, gay and that you have someone in your life whom you love and you have been committed to for four years. \

    I know that sounds easier than what it really is but once you can accept it yourself, then you have to lay it out there and hope for the best.

    I'm thinking about you, bud. Good Luck!
     
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    Your situation is not at all unusual. Older/Younger relationships are actually quite common. In fact, I have been in two long term relationships with greater age gaps than yours. What matters it seems to me - is that you're in a consensual, loving relationship with a close friend who shares your interests - ** YOU'VE WON THE LOTTERY!! ** - I also understand that inter-generational romances require you to come out twice. There is no shame in being gay, and certainly no shame in having what I can see (from what you've written) as an awesome relationship with an older man. I'm open to chat about this topic if you'd like msg me. Good Luck!!!
     
  4. dano218

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    In my book age difference is the LEAST important thing in a relationship. ousted to thing you have to let people know your bf is older than you but now I am just gonna say this is my boyfriend and show pics or whatever. Don't make it a issue unless they ask first. Play I off like it is just a typica normall relationship which it is.
     
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    Sure would like to chat with you. How do you do that on here?
     
  6. Chip

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    This is a tough call. With few exceptions (and the other posters in this thread notwithstanding), relationships that are intergenerational, as this one is, rarely work out in the long term, because there's an inherent imbalance in power that makes them unhealthy. Particularly in this circumstance, the fact that you were 16 and he was 34 when the relationship started... it's pretty much impossible for it to be a truly emotionally healthy relationship because of the inherent differences in psychological and emotional development between someone still in the middle of high school and someone in their mid-30s.

    However, what does make this relationship different is that you've been together for 4 years. So either it is actually a reasonably healthy, balanced relationship or, more likely, because you started into it so young, it's evolved into a sort of functional-but-dysfunctional thing that works but probably isn't the most emotionally healthy (which actually describes an awful lot of relationships in the world.

    I wouldn't want to tell you to break it off at this point, since it seems to be working. But I would advise you to have awareness of how much balance there is in the relationship, and if it's imbalanced (a lot of caretaking on his part, control issues, manipulation, anything of that sort) that you take steps to balance it out. Other than that, I do think, after 4 years, that you probably should come out to your parents because the shame (for you) of keeping the relationship under wraps is definitely affecting your self-esteem, and, likewise, the shame for him of being the "invisible boyfriend" is really unhealthy for him as well.
     
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    Neither of you can do that yet, because you are both regular members, and sharing contact information of any sort in the public forums is prohibited by our security policy. So when you each get up to 50 posts and 2+ weeks of participation, you can apply for full membership, and if approved, you'll both be able to PM or access the chat room.
     
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    Adding onto what Chip's said, members, regardless of membership status, can always Private Message a staff member. You guys may still be able to wall message each other, depending on your settings, though.
     
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    I've been lucky not to have any serious power issues since I began dating my bf. He has always been a kind sweet gentleman. He always ask me how I feel and If I'm happy and has even offered to let me date guys my own age. Although, he has taught me a lot in so much in many parts of life from our common love of cars, to cooking, nature, politics to love making, it has not from my perspective been a relationship of imbalance. He calls me an old soul and say's that I think and act 20 years older than my age many times.

    This is one of the worries about me coming out to my parents. As others have said, I need to come out first as gay and secondly as dating an older man. My fear is somewhat what Chip has said, that my parents will think my BF is using me and the relationship lacks balance due to the age. They may think he only likes me so he can have sex with me. But that is not true. Although, we have a great sex life, we also have a lot more too. I don't think I could ever date a guy or be in a relationship that was only focused on sex. There is so much more.

    I do agree that I'm cheating myself and my bf by not coming out.
     
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    My words precisely. Forbearance and caution are greatly advised by me.
     
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    Ultimately, at the end of the day, you're an adult, and your decision about how you live your life should not be affected by your parents' approval.

    My guess is, in spite of your denials, they probably already suspect, which also means they've probably had time to think about it and process it to a large extent. Even if they buy what you said on a conscious level, at an unconscious level, they probably still have an idea of what's going on. It is pretty much impossible for people in a relationship to hide that from those close to them for any period of time, if they spend any time around one another.

    So in other words... if your parents have spent any time seeing you and your bf together, in spite of the most Academy Award-worthy performances by the two of you, most people can figure it out. It's subtle, but there are signs that someone who knows what to look for can pick up.

    So I'd be inclined to say... tell them. And assume that if they are not really consciously aware and accepting, you'll have to deal with their 5 stages of loss (denial-anger-bargainng-grief-acceptance). But I think at the end of the day, they'll accept the situation. And whether they do or not... it will still be healthier for you and for your bf for the two of you to be out to everyone.
     
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    If you were 16 when you had sex, there's another problem to consider--more for him than you. If your family took it badly, they could go after him and totally ruin his life.
     
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    :welcome: I don't see the age gap as a problem at all, if your happy with this guy than that's what matters most. Come out in your own time when you are in the moment...preparing will help ease nerves a bit. There has been questioning of your sexuality so it wont be too much of a shock. :goodluck: with everything. I really hope things go well, you deserve to be happy and be in a happy relationship. :rolle:
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    I agree that these kind of relationships could be healthy. It depends on each situation. I am in a long term one and I love him as much as he loves me.
     
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    That's how I see it, I love him and he loves me. Perhaps I'm in denial but it's working for both of us. We love to be with each other, I think about him all the time. Even though we've been together for 4 years the intensity of our love for each-other is only getting stronger. However, society overall seems to have an issue with the age gap, I just need to learn to not worry about it.

    I was not totally surprised when my father asked me this past summer if I was gay and if something was going on between me and my bf. Even though I told him no and lied to him, I really don't think he bought it all. And yes me and my bf have been together with my parents and although we keep a distance from each other when were around them and my younger sister and brother, there is a bit of awkwardness.

    I'm working on when and where and how to come out to them. I really don't think they will be shocked that I'm gay, as I never talk about girls and the only GF I had was when I was 13 and she asked me out. That relationship only lasted a few months and that was the last time I was involved with a girl. I know I not only want to do this, I need to do this for my relationship with my bf to develop to the next level.

    As far as my age is concerned, I'm an adult and all they need to know is we were best friends for a long time and discovered our mutual love for each other over time. I won't tell them it began when I was 16, which I fully consented too and pursued on my own and knew what I wanted. Only if they pressure me on when it began sexually, I will tell them when I was 18.

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    Thanks dano218, that's exactly how I see it. Our relationship is very healthy, we each love each other and love being with each other. Now I just need to stop hiding it. How long have you been in yours and whats your age gap?
     
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    I been with him for a year and I am 23 and he is 46. My advice don't make the age difference a issue unless it they ask.
     
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    That's really cool, your age gap is even bigger than mine. Nice to know I'm not alone here. And yeah I don't want to focus on the age difference with them, only talk about our common interests and love for each other. I think that's all that really counts.
     
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    Right on. Age is just a number.
     
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    I would like to think that after a 4 year relationship I could tell my family about it, but I also know that is probably not an accurate idea for me. I don't know the dynamics of your familial relations and that is a big factor in determining if you should tell them in my opinion. Just for some clarification, have you talked to your partner about this before? If so, has he expressed a need for you to tell your parents about him or has he made any type of statement to imply he might not want that at all?

    If you really want to tell them, I would like to say go ahead. But again, I don't know the entirety of the situation or how people will react and I tend to micro-manage to the point I attempt to control other people's emotions as much as possible...

    Also, I am entirely against the idea that "age is just a number." Different biological and natural processes occur over time and [time] can never be repeated. Your relationship may be working out and it could continue to work out regardless of the age issue. But as the body gets older, things start to breakdown and more health issues arise and these are tangible rather than abstract as the saying would imply. Just something to ponder
     
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    A person in their thirties can be more unhealthy than someone in their fifties. People are living longer these days hell I think Sylvester Stallone is sexy and he's in his sixties. So your argument is dead wrong.