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Gaydar and closeted people

Discussion in 'Family, Friends, and Relationships' started by Saintly89, Dec 24, 2013.

  1. Saintly89

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    Hello empty closets. This is my first post!

    Okay, I want to ask about a topic that is probably worn out: Gaydar.

    To some people it is ridiculous and based on obvious stereotypes that are more like common sense than some kind of deep intuition. To others it's a kind of unexplainable sixth sense that some people do have.

    I myself have accurately judged someones sexual orientation several times, and not always basing my judgment on obvious traits. I too have been accurately categorized as gay by people who do not know me, without having to say anything, and in spite of not me being glaringly obvious (though I would never go so far as to describe myself as "straight acting").

    I have a very strong crush on a friend who identifies as straight and for some reason I have always had a gut feeling that he is gay but closeted because he is a religious Baptist. He doesn't have many stereotypical traits other than having "twinkish" good looks and a obsession with working out. He rarely dates, says he rarely thinks about sex, and has offered some weird explanations as to why. Such as "I don't wanna go out with girls around here because I'm afraid they're my cousin". He lives in a small town but trust me, it's not stopping anyone else. I told him I would have rather had him date my sister than the guy she was dating at the time and he told me "she's too good a friend". This being in spite of the fact that they had been to the movies together twice, both times with me along, and have never had a real conversation.

    He enthusiastically leaps at the chance to talk about homosexuality. Once he told me that he thought "being gay is a choice" and that he has "homosexual thoughts" but that it doesn't make him gay because "everyone does". A while later he told me he had been suicidal about something in his life but didn't want to tell me what. I got the feeling it was related to our earlier conversation about being gay. He also told me he thought I was really good-looking after I disparaged my looks. He told me he was obsessed with Nsync and the Backstreet Boys as a kid. He politely implied he was very well endowed when we're at a Mexican restaurant to a table with two gay men. He is also sexually abstinent but worked as a security guard and for thirty minutes regaled me and two friends with stories of where people meet to have sex to the point where everyone was anxious he change the subject. Other than me, two other gay men have had a thing for him (to a lesser extent) and he described one as accusing him of "just bluffing" about being straight. So I learned I'm not the only one to suspect this.

    None of this means anything definite one way or the other. I realize this post has been done in one form or another countless times. I was just curious about other peoples opinions about gaydar and people who are closeted. I'm not naive enough to expect people to say "he's gay fore sure" or "no way, you're just wishful thinking". I'm not unbiased and I may be just wishful thinking. I just wanted some opinions on the general subject.
     
  2. WhiteShadows

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    Hey
    It sounds like he certainly could be closeted and just in denial. The only way to find out is to get closer to him and talk to him about it more :slight_smile:
    Good luck!
     
  3. Saintly89

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    Thanks WhiteShadows!
     
  4. awesomeyodais

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    The typical question in similar posts is "is he gay" - I'll take another approach and say based on your post I don't think he's 100% straight - and he hasn't quite figured that out yet/certainly isn't ready to share that info.

    I think the best you can do for him is continue to be a good friend, come out discretely to him (i.e. don't do it in front of a bunch of his friends so he doesn't feel he has to hide his reaction), continue to be friends and show him gay/non-straight people are ok.

    The best you can do for you is don't hope he's going to come around in the next week or so and fall madly in love with you etc... It could take him a while to come out to himself then to others (the religious family usually doesn't make things easier), and no guarantee you're going to be "his type" anyway.
     
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    This person sounds just like my friend. He may just believe sexuality is fluid and could be open to a homosexual relationship. But to get there, you gotta get closer! :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: