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My Straight? Crush... This crap has been going on too long...

Discussion in 'Family, Friends, and Relationships' started by ForcedInduction, Feb 15, 2014.

  1. ForcedInduction

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    Alright, so I have a problem that I have posted about on different forums before. I am a 20 year old gay (possibly bi?) male. I am in love with one of my younger best friends (he's 17), and I have been for a while. My only problem is that he has never told me that he is gay (nor I him), although all signs point to flaming (no offense intended). Basically If he had not denied his homosexuality on multiple occasions, probably due to his extremely strict Christian upbringing, I would have no doubt in my mind that he was gay.

    For the stereotypes: He is artistic, loves Lady Gaga, is very particular about his appearance, dresses very well, takes "selfies" of himself shirtless in feminine poses, has a bit of a lisp (IMO), and hangs around with a lot of girls. His number one snapchat contact is an openly gay friend of his, whom I also know that he texts on a regular basis. This kid has been his #1 ever since he started using the program. He rarely, if ever, talks about women around me; and it's usually only when his brother is around.

    For more evidence: He has always been very touchy feely with me, like he has no boundaries when I'm around. He pats me on the behind frequently. He touches my chest, hugs me, puts his arm/s around me, puts his head on my shoulder, etc (all of this was even going on Thursday night and happens pretty much every time I'm around him). He also allows me to do the same, which is something that you average straight male would punch me for. He and I have always been really close, and I'm pretty sure that his family suspects that something is up because his father addressed his brother about it several years ago (his brother is also my friend). We used to tell each other "I love you" quite frequently, but that has stopped since his brother got onto his case about 2 years ago about "not acting like you like him". That, however, has not stopped the rest of the flirting. We have snuggled under blankets playing footsie. He suggested one time that we should "smooch", although I don't know how serious he was. Probably my strongest evidence that he is gay, however, is that several years ago his brother ended up going through his internet search history and finding some gay porn. I still worry that maybe a virus caused it, but there was also a search for "teens struggling with homosexuality", which I don't think a virus would search...

    Anyway, my two questions are as follows: 1) Do you think this kid is gay and likes me? and 2) How do gay males act with their female friends? Because he is pretty close to my sister, and although she claims that she doesn't think that he likes her, I worry about it sometimes. He hangs around with her at school (I graduated and now I don't go to the same school as them), and he even has one of his profile pics on an iPhone app as a funny picture of them making a face at the camera. He is also close with another female friend of ours, but she is in a relationship. It's almost like he treats them as one of his "girlfriends" in the same way that girls treat each other. Hell, he was talking about periods with one of them the other day. Thanks in advance!
     
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    Well it definitely sounds like he's gay or bi. I would just ask him. You two seem like really close friends so just subtly bringing up the subject of homosexuality and asking him if he's ever had attractions towards other men could be a start. I doubt straight up asking if he's gay/bi would jeopardize your relationship. It seems very clear that he's not straight and might be interested in you so he might not be too surprised if you ask.
     
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    Based on all this, he is definitely gay or bi. You guys are very close friends, I think you should just talk to him about it. I know it might be hard in the beginning, but something great could happen :slight_smile:
    Good luck to you! Keep us updated.
     
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    Well what confuses me the most, and has kept me from talking to him about it this far, has been his hot and coldness. He does all of the stuff mentioned above when I'm around him, but will 50% of the time not reply to texts and snapchats. I know he checks his phone and texts people because when I'm at his house he has his phone with him most of the time and is snapping his "girlfriends" or his gay buddy on the other side of the country. Some times when I have said something about it he's just like "I was busy, sorry :frowning2:" but others he just says "sorry".

    In real life things are confusing as well. One second he's all over me. Touching me, trying to entertain me, paying me all the attention in the world, and the next he's distracted and barely recognizes my presence... I don't know what to think...
     
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    Honestly, I am gonna be short and very honest.

    GO FOR IT BOY!

    This is really love what you feeling, cause you are physically attracted to him and he's one of your best friends, the recipe is ready, just take it. And I mean it, his brother is the only thing on HIS WAY of telling you his real feelings. Your evidences are way greater than mines in my thread (http://emptyclosets.com/forum/famil...not-so-well-planned-but-still-valid-work.html), so again, GO FOR IT.

    Help me in my thread as well, I'd be glad. Thanks in advance.
     
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    I cent really give too much advice off of this because some times we just get paranoid and it might not be as bad as we view it. I know when I crush on someone everything they do involving me , I instantly analyze and over think. After Im over the crush it's like 'Woah. Was I that obsessed?' so I mean, if youre crushing on him and all that youre perspective might not be entirely accurate.

    BUT. All I can really say from what you've mentioned is, he's human. Human's are unpredictable and some times hard to understand. He might be in your face and flirtacious at one moment and the next he's reserved and not as energetic. I'm the same way some times. But that doesn't mean it has anything to do with you specifically.

    The texting/snapchat situation is slightly different. Maybe because he might be crushing on you as well, he's not as comfortable with texting/snapchatting you like he seems to be with his 'girlfriends'. Nothing is definite but don't let the inconsistency in his behavior obstruct your decision. I think you should still ask him about being gay and so forth. But these are just my opinions, Im not very experienced in relationships such as this but these are my views on the matter.
     
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    Some people are comfortable saying things but not writing them down (feels a bit too "real" once it's written. Some people don't have exclusive access to their phone (i.e. others sometimes read their stuff accidentally or not). Snapchat messages don't last very long but the potential is still there to worry some I suppose.
     
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    Do u like him for him or that he likes you or offering affection or passionate moves? If u like him for what hes offering i say stay if its not a genuine excuse.
     
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    In reply to everyone since my last post... (Sorry, I'm on my phone and it won't let me multi quote).

    I like him for him, not just for how he treats me. The reason it bothers me is because if he doesn't like me back I will be heartbroken. I will still like him, but for a long time now I have lived under the assumption that he had feelings for me, and when he acts like he doesn't (or just doesn't overtly throw himself at me like he normally does) it worries me. I keep thinking "ok, he doesn't snapchat me that often, but I don't snap him that often either". For me, though, I don't snap him because I'm afraid that he won't reply. Idk, it's just all a big mess.