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Talking to my mum about things

Discussion in 'Family, Friends, and Relationships' started by Trentacles, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. Trentacles

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    First sorry if I have typos. I'm typing this quickly at on my mobile and autocorrect can be a bit naff.

    Basically I have a lot going on mentally and I'm exhausted from the constant anxiety at this point. I've been arguing with my mum since coming out last week and I don't really know how to talk to her without things escalating. She tries to talk to me and I get upset because I really just want her to leave me alone but in my prior threads here everyone says I need to talk to her.

    Also I was reading the thread by mumof3 in the parents subforum and it made me feel like a twit because I'm sure my mum is dealing with the same emotions as her so I know I should probably talk to my mum about things because I don't want her upset.

    My biggest concern is that she's going to make me transfer schools which she keeps bringing up and I feel like it's out of my control since I'm not an adult and she doesn't seem to care that I don't like the idea. Like I get that she thinks it's for my safety but it's like just leave me the f alone because I can deal with things myself. I feel horrible for getting upset with her bit I feel like she's f-ing me over with everything in my life right now.

    Like I really want to talk with her about things but I feel like it's just going to end with me angry at her again. Someone suggested email and I started to write one but I could feel my anxiety levels go way up and I deleted it. Someone also suggested I have her go top flag and have other parents deal with it but I need to talk to her because I don't like where my relationship is at right now with her.

    Hopefully this is coherent because I get the feeling it wasn't. But I appreciate any advice on how to talk to her about everything.
     
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    I know how you feel. It's been a whirlwind week for you and your mom. It's hard enough when your coming-out is planned; it's even harder when you're sort of forced out of the closet.

    I think just letting her know that you want to keep the lines of communication open is a good thing. Something simple like "Hey I know my coming out has been a shock to you and it's a lot for you to process. If there's anything you're concerned or worried about, let me know and we can talk about it. And I hope I can turn to you if there's something that I'm concerned or worried about too." Be prepared for her to ask stupid questions, and be patient with her if and when that happens. You can also print out some resources from PFLAG and just leave them in a place where she'll see them, or you can email them to her. I did that.

    As for the school thing, if you think things are going to be ok, let her know why. Identify some resources at the school and people you know who will support you and help you.

    You also mentioned in another thread that she wants you to see a therapist. I think that's a really good idea. You've been on an emotional roller coaster and it's good to have a time to just sit down and talk through everything.

    I hope this helps!
     
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    if the idea of talking to her is difficult you could consider writing to her - even if to let her know you are thinking a lot under the surface - Maybe a note a bit like your post above, and saying you'd like to talk.

    She could be a real help in the long run and the silence right now is possibly not the best arrangement. Particularly when such important issues as changing schools, seeing therapist etc are on the agenda.
     
  4. The email suggestion is really good. Don't delete it, send it. I know it would probably mortify you - but I think if your mum read what you've been writing on here, she would be pretty proud of you. Concerned, but proud. You express yourself really well and show a lot of emotional intelligence. If you open up to her about this stuff, she's more likely to treat you as an adult - and trust your judgement a bit more.

    Don't doubt yourself - you come across as incredibly coherent, remarkably so considering the very difficult situation you find yourself in. Cliched as it sounds, it does get better. In a few months things will look very different. In a couple of years, if you go on to do A-levels at a different school (strongly advised, IMO) the atmosphere will be completely different, and you'll have way more control over your own life. Stuff will make sense in a way that it doesn't right now. Sorry if that's patronising, but it's completely true!

    For example - I can almost guarantee, at least one of the people in the school who reacted weirdly or aggressively towards you when word got out you were gay, will themselves come out. They may even seek you out for advice.

    Anyway, good luck with all this. Keep talking and make sure you cut yourself some slack, especially right now. Recognise that the situation you're in is completely insane - and it will pass and get back to normal. Things definitely will get better.
     
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    I'm scared that if she finds out I come here she'll block my access in the content filter. Though I could still access it on my mobile if I guess. But yeah I would be so f-ing embarrassed if she saw my posts so perhaps I'm sharing too much on here. I'm generally not very open with my feelings so yeah i'm sure she would be like wtf.


    Side note: Do they still make those "it gets better" videos? I think the last one I saw was facebook's. I wasn't out at the time but it was pretty uplifting. but i haven't seen any mentioned in a while.

    Not a chance. Getting beat up yesterday was related to me trying to fight the ex-gf's brother on friday. him and his mates are angry with me for various reasons but definitely not because he's gay.
     
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    I agree with this, especially if you have been arguing a lot because it will give you a chance to say what you want to say without being interrupted and give your mum a chance to think over what you have said in her own time, talking about these sort of issues get heated very quickly as I'm sure you know, and once that happens most people become a lot less receptive to what other people are saying so it is really important that you can try and start a calm discussion and an email or letter is usually the best way.

    Mentioning this forum might be a good idea but maybe not by name if you don't the chance of her finding your threads, I think it was you who said that your mum was encouraging you to join a LGBT society(but correct me if I'm wrong about that) so she will probably be pleased that you have found a place to come and get advice from people that have been through the same thing and that you aren't on your own in this.
     
  7. If you regret posting anything, then you can ask the moderators to delete threads - it's their decision, but I think they'd probably understand and agree to do it if you have privacy concerns.

     
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    Nothing bad. Things could have gone worse. He was just naffed that I got him kicked out of our swimming club (well technically he got himself kicked out but the coach asked if i wanted him to come back on saturday and I said no since i'm a dick like that).

    ---------- Post added 22nd Apr 2014 at 10:47 PM ----------

    Also I sent my mum an email a bit earlier but she has said nothing and it's like ugh, have you not checked your email or what?
     
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    So my mum still hasn't responded to the email or mentioned it. Is it possible she didn't see it or did she just not want to respond?
     
  10. She's probably just processing it, and thinking before she responds. Don't read too much into it.
     
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    Yeah she took a while to mention the porn. Or maybe she just hasn't noticed.

    What did you send her?
     
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    Lol. I wasn't the most elaborate.

    Subject: hey. Email said: Mind if we talk about some things? I promise not to get upset this time.

    Surely she's read it by now.
     
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    Ugh. Finally just f-ing asked her and she didn't see the email. We talked some. I don't know if I feel better about anything. I don't know why she's so unwilling to negotiate about me transferring schools.
     
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    As for the school transfer...

    Parents can get really upset about school problems, as you are discovering now...

    One point worth pointing out: a new school has no guarantee that you won't end up getting attacked by a bully.

    In fact, I was horribly unpopular at age 12 in school. The next year brought a new school, but I ended up going to a different school than the rest of my old classmates. That school might have been a better choice on several levels. But...the funny thing was that my popularity did not increase in the least at the new school. It was a fresh start, yes, but kids were much the same. And I certainly was the same person, not the sort who becomes Mr. Big Shot on Campus overnight.

    This is only speculation, since I don't know your mother. But...it may be that she is hoping on some level that if you are at a new school, you'll stop being gay. That, of course, is impossible. But she may still think it.

    You might have better luck negotiating the school issue from a different direction. I don't know what the British school calendar is like. But assuming that you are in the middle of a term, you might argue that it's better to stay, and not transfer until a new term starts. It's very disrupting and hard changing schools in the middle of a term. If she buys this argument, it will buy time...and perhaps in a month she will decide a transfer is not necessary.

    One final tip: through this, you need to be as grown up as you can be. Generally, screaming matches do nothing. Staying calm, and reasonable might win the battle for you.
     
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    I think her goal is for me to go back in the closet. I told her if I change schools I'm immediately telling everyone that I'm gay.

    We just started our summer term which goes until july. I think her goal is for me to switch at the end of term which is also the end of the year before things begin again in september. I have some time to negotiate with her.

    Well I've tried both methods lol. Tonight I was reasonable I think. I just focused on the point that I didn't want to lose all of my friends. I also pointed out that I'm not getting picked on because i'm gay but only because i was a dick to my ex-gf (which i feel bad about). Most people at school have been fine
     
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  16. Re: hoping that you'll stop being gay - that is my hunch also. Possibly more of a 'brush it all under the carpet and hope that the gay stuff all goes away' - new school, new start, no one has to know about your sexuality, you'll forget about fooling around with guys, get you away from gay influences etc etc.

    That might be her line of thinking (even if she won't actually say it). A good way to figure out if this is indeed what's going on is to ask her if she expects you to keep quiet about your sexuality if you were to change schools. She might automatically assume that you would want to go back into the closet - but would you? And is that even feasible in the era of Facebook?

    In terms of strategy, I agree with BMC - stay calm and level headed and try to put off the decision on whether to move schools for as long as possible, to allow her time to comento terms with the fact that your sexuality won't suddenly disappear / change because you're in a new school.

    ---------- Post added 23rd Apr 2014 at 11:48 PM ----------

    That took me ages to type on my crap 2" android screen. How i wish i still had my blackberry! Anyway, Looks like you've basically already replied!

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    Finally - can you enlist your brother to help you convince your mum?
     
  17. LOL - I think that's what they call gay pride!

    Anyway, before I go to bed, one final thought - it may be worth having a word with your head of year at school, explaining that your mum wants you to move schools and explaining the faulty reasoning behind it.
     
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    This is also very possible. You may get a lecture at some point about, "Staying quiet about this!"

    Telling your mother you will tell everyone you're gay does make your position clear.

    Also worth pointing out: even if you stay quiet, there are no guarantees that "no one would learn!" There is a chance of information leaks from one school to another. All it takes is one person at each school who knows each other, and knows who you are.
     
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    Yeah. He's been on my side for most things including this.
     
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    I might as well add this thought...

    As I said, being calm is the best thing. But...sometimes you might lose control. That happens even to people my age...

    If things get heated, it's often best if possible to just stop the conversation until everyone cools down.