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Is my guy best friend gay? And giving me hints?

Discussion in 'Family, Friends, and Relationships' started by InsecureFriend, Mar 21, 2015.

  1. InsecureFriend

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    Hi! I'm new here and this question has been bothering me for awhile and I just wanted opinion on this matter. I think I have a crush on him myself, but I know I am bisexual. Maybe I'm just taking this too far just because I like him.

    So, my guy best friend and I have been pretty close for a couple of months now. I can safely say that we are best friends or "bros". Recently he's been always asking me to come over, or to hang out with him and be alone together. Also, I've noticed him acting different around me, almost like he's too comfortable with me I guess? One night at a party (no drinking) he was acting really close to me, always touching me and attempting to give me a neck massage. Then he would sit on my lap a couple times, don't know why, but he just liked it and he would lay his head on me a few times. Sometimes he would "wrestle" with me, mostly because he took my phone and I wanted it back. I took these as hints that he could be gay, or just a really close friend. Other friends in my group say that they think he is gay but whenever they ask him he always says no, and acts all defensive about it. But when people ask him who he likes he claims that he is not into any girls or guys (Bisexual?)

    One night when we were texting. In texts we sort of flirt with each other like "Oh you're like my closest guy friend, I really miss you, you should come over I'm lonely" and some other things. At another party we were playing truth or dare and his dare was "Give someone a hickey of your choice" and he chooses me out of all these girls and guys. But he said he wouldn't do it because everyone was watching. Then he had "Pinch and touch someone's butt" and he chose me again. I wasn't weirded out, I kind of like it, but I was surprised. He then continuously tried to squeeze and spank my butt too. Also he asks me about my "fetishes" and turn ons and dick size a lot of times. He's really not an open kid though. He doesn't talk about himself a lot and is secretive about himself maybe he doesn't trust me enough to tell me?

    I've also picked up on this as well - He always likes to make his butt noticeable and he would always talk about how big it is and he makes it noticeable in front of me because he wants me to look at it. He sometimes wears my clothes too like wears my sweatpants and shorts some times. He says "That's so gay" to me like ALOT, maybe he doesn't want me to suspect that he is gay so he makes gay jokes? I want to give him signs that he can tell me or trust me. But idk how? How do I get him comfortable with me enough to tell me, or to take in signs or ask him or test to see if he is?

    Thanks in advance for the responses, sorry if this was long. I'm new here and I just need some help with this. <3
     
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    Well this is a difficult question, because we are not there, nor are we your friend.

    Also known things like demisexual, or asexual are legitimate things. I'm not saying your friend is either of those things yet it's something to keep in mind.

    Honestly the best way, in my opinion, to get someone's trust is making it clear you you are fine with friends being of whatever orientation. Trust is also something that typically builds over time and is a very give and take thing.

    Also consider you could be making connections that don't exist due to your perceived crush. Again this may not be true in your situation, just keep it in mind.

    No matter what at the very least you two seem to be good friends. Hold onto that, you're very lucky to have a friend like that.

    Finally don't pressure him with the "Are you gay?" question. I'm not sure what your personal experience was with your bisexuality but when I was just starting to think maybe I'm gay, and someone asked me "are you gay?" that scared the hell out of me. Even if I knew they were accepting because I was at the time still dealing with a sense of loss of identity.

    Hope I helped in some way. Or at least gave you some things to think about. :slight_smile:
     
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    I don't know about you but this sounds like someone's either:
    A) In the closet
    B) Questioning their sexuality
    C) In denial
     
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    I agree based off what was said one of these could be likely.
     
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    Yeah, I've tried talking to him about sexual orientation, but he claims I'm all "anti-gay". I try to say that I am not but he doesn't believe me. And when I go into a "deep ish" topic he kind of joins in but then he tries to change the subject.

    Maybe I am slightly exaggerating some thing because I have a "man crush" on him. But I just am so curious. And I'm so happy that we are close friends, I rather have that even if it means I'll never get my answer.

    And I completely understand about the "Are you gay?" I made the mistake and did that to him once and he got mad at me. Thanks for replying though.
     
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    To me it sounds like your friend might be questioning his sexuality but isn't ready to talk about it yet. I could be totally wrong about that, though.

    Since you have a crush on him, you might see connections that aren't there (I do that all the time) but it's hard to judge as an outsider. Do some of your other friends know that you're bisexual and that you like him? Maybe you can ask them what they think of the situation (but remember they might be wrong, too).

    As long as you having a crush on him doesn't hurt you too much, try holding on to your friendship, wait for a few weeks and then try talking about sexuality or your relationship as friends or otherwise with him again. If he doesn't want to talk, that's his decision, but you can still try again.
     
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    Idk if this is a stupid question but i dont think you mentioned if he knows your sexual orientation? If he doesnt it sounds like hes giving you alot of hints maybe hes affraid you will act some type of way and stop being his friend, you should start sending him somme messages back or just have some alone time together and talk and be real with each other
     
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    No I think that's the problem too. He thinks I'm homophobic, or way too straight. I want to tell him so badly that I am bisexual but I'm so afraid to. It's gonna change everything.
    And then what if he isn't bi/gay? And all this effort is a waste. I just don't want to ever lose him as a friend that's all. Even if that means that he isn't gay.

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    Last night I went to a hangout, and I was texting him frequently throughout the night, and my friends there always talk about if me and him are gay for each other. And I was telling him this. His initial texts were - "ugh.... I hate all of them legitimately. You're just an absolute bro". So idk? He didn't want to talk about the whole subject. He kind of stopped texting me after I asked what he thought about it. I just wish he was more open with me and talked about himself. But I just don't think he's comfortable with himself.
     
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    I think the best way to let him know that you trust him and want him to trust you would be to come out to him. Next time you get a chance along with him, you could say something along the lines of:

    "Hey, there's something I wanted to tell you. Since you're my best friend I feel like you should know, and I want you to know that I trust you and that you can trust me. So I just want to tell you that I'm bisexual. I hope this doesn't change your opinion of me or affect our friendship because that means a lot to me. I just wanted you to know."

    If he reacts badly, his loss. I doubt he will though.
    If he is actually bi/gay/curious, he will probably feel a bit more comfortable to talk to you about this stuff.

    Good luck, keep us updated :slight_smile:
     
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    I agree. I realise that it could be pretty hard for you to come out to him, especially because you like him a lot but if you think that he might be gay/bi and you open up to him, he might find the courage to open up to you too.
     
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    I'll probably ask him if he trusts me and our friend group, or if he is uncomfortable with us. And take it from there, thank you everyone though. This helps me alot.
     
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    If he's getting annoyed that you are "anti-gay" coming out will probably dispel those concerns from him. Also I should point out that if he is getting annoyed at your perceived anti-gayness it's a good indicator that he's at least a straight ally if not actually part of the LGBT community.

    That said only come out if you think it's safe to do so, and you feel that you are ready. Don't feel pressure from us to come out.
     
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    So I did not come out openly saying what my sexuality was, but I kind of hinted at it. Some of my friends asked him if him and I were gay for each other which kind of made the situation worse, and he kept saying no acting all defensive. And when I asked him about it he just said he doesn't trust me enough but that we're just "absolute bros" so I'm not really sure what the situation is now. I just know he doesn't trust me enough to tell me :frowning2:
     
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    Update:

    So I told him that I was curious, but on verge of being bisexual. And he commented back saying how "I'm not sure what I am, I'm pretty sure I'm straight not sure about being gay but I do gay things". So what is he exactly?

    He still constantly does sensual intimate stuff to me, and calls me "hot" and "11/10" but IDK. I'm confused.

    He also claimed he liked no one everytime some one asked but some reason a day later he says he liked this girl because "she's hyper". At a party he was really REALLY touchy with her like putting arms around her all the time cuddling with her. Even though they aren't dating I'm really confused about him. He does the same to me, so idk what is he?
     
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    He sounds like my roommate lol, I've been living with him for about 4 years now and we have gotten so close over the years. I still can't figure what his sexual orientation. I think he is straight, but then he always play/mess around with me. Like grab my ass, hug, cuddle and even slept at the same bed. I kissed him before, he just say "GAYYY" every time I make out with his neck. I don't know I know he likes girls but then I'm also confuse if he likes guys as well. Sorta the same situation with my roommate but we are more sexually intimate lmao. You should just try make a move on him, like if you guys are alone. or try watching porn together and see what happens. lol nothing wrong with testing the water and flirt with him hardcore and see if he flirts back. Obviously if he gets uncomfortable just simply back off.. He sounds like he is really laid back and curious.. Its worth the try..
     
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    Well, at least you've told him now about your orientation. Now it's up to him if he wants to talk to you about it more.

    But if he goes on like this with the flirty stuff for a while, maybe you should just own up and let him know you have feelings for him.

    Just make sure he knows that you understand if he doesn't feel the same way, but that you just wanted to tell him.
     
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    Please do NOT follow this advice, at least not yet.

    You have made a big step forward by telling him you orientation, congratulations :slight_smile: and he opened to you a little more thanks to it. As Whiteshadows said, give him some time, see where it goes. If you still feel like he is intimate with you after what you have told him, you can either tell him you like him, or make a move on him.