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CONFUSED gay/bi or overthinking straight

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  1. Fallmountains1

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    There has been a few times with two of my different friends that I have obsessively wondered if I liked them more than a friend. I feel like deep down I know that I don't, but I continue to obsessively worry about it to the point where I will try to picture sexual situations with them. I don't like doing this and don't find it arousing, but I still do it to check if I will like it. Or stare at a picture of them to try to decide if I am attracted to them. I do this with other guys as well because I can't get past worrying if I'm attracted to guys. It's dumb, I know

    I am sexually attracted and romantically attracted to girls, which I won't go into because I already addressed it in my other posts. It went from worrying constantly that I was gay to sometimes wondering if I'm bi since I can't be gay since I like girls. Worrying about being bi is even more difficult because you can still like girls and be bi.

    I don't fantasize about guys unless I force myself to and don't enjoy it, but do like fantasizing about girls and find it very arousing.

    From what I have said does it sound like gay or bisexual behavior? Does it sound like an actual "crush" or same sex attraction or does it sound like I am overthinking and worrying about irrational thoughts? All inputs are extremely welcomed, thank you!!!
     
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    Would you consider experimenting? Of course, not necessarily with one of your friends if you think that would hurt the friendship. I think best way to know, sometimes, is to just experiment.

    Have you watched gay porn? Or staring at the dude while watching straight porn?

    And... sexual attraction might be one thing, romantic attraction might come or might not come with it.

    You may be romantically attracted to dudes, for example. And while romantically attracted, consequently sexually attracted, or perhaps not sexually but exclusively romantically.

    Or perhaps you just really love your mates, nor sexually nor romantically
     
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    No, I don't think I would consider experimenting. The thoughts towards my friends seem irrational, but they're still there. I have watched gay porn to test my reaction, I don't like it, but it has produced a penile response a few times. When I watch straight porn I always focus on the girl. I don't feel sexually or romantically attracted to guys, but the more I think about it the more I don't know. I know I am sexually and romantically attracted to girls. What do you think? You can take a look at my other threads. Please respond back. Thank you
     
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    I'm not sure if this applies to you, or would make you feel better, but there have been cases where otherwise straight men would inexplicably find one guy attractive.
    My point is, if you genuinely find someone attractive, don't think about your sexuality too much, and just enjoy it for what it is. We still don't fully understand how sexual attraction works yet.

    But yeah, you're probably straight.
     
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    This. :3
     
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    I think guys are attractive if they have nice bodies or good looking faces, but I don't feel drawn to them to touch them or have sex or things like that like I do with women. the more I think about it the more it confuses me. I never thought much about it before I started worrying then I notice every guy and analyze if I feel attracted to them or not. What are your thoughts on that?
     
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    None of us can tell you what your deepest desires are, I'm sorry to say. You could be straight and obsess about gayness, or you could be gay/bi and just be subconsciously repressing it for some reason. Overthinking it will not give you the answer you're looking for.

    To find it you will need to relax and allow yourself to like or be attracted to anyone, regardless of their sex. Then you will find who you naturally want to be with. At the end of the day, what matters isn't the sex of the person you love, but who will truly make you happy. If that happens to be a woman, then that is great, and if it's a man, the bigotry you may encounter will seem insignificant compared to being in love.
     
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    I agree with Trooper. Stop overthinking, thats interesting to consider. I am a fairly rational person, and excessively systematic as well so I tend to overthink a lot, and sometimes it just doesn't help. Let yourself go and explore, go with the flow, search your feelings without rationalizing in excess. Those are deep things there, only you know the answer, all we can do is offer some advice considering our own experiences.

    For example; Look at your friends, other girls, other boys, just look, don't think. Just experience the moment. Don't rationalize it. Live the experience, gather evidences and then you may analyze and think about it.

    Also, I know you don't consider experimenting as you said that. I didn't consider experimenting with a girl either, but I did anyways because I let myself go. It didn't hurt. When I first kissed a girl, I was questioning whether I was really gay or perhaps bi so it kind of scared me you know, the idea of experimenting with a girl. As crazy as it sounds, it felt like I was scared of figuring myself out the other way around after building a self image of a gay man. Thing is, I didn't turn out to be bi nor straight. And I also found out that this whole self image thing may help or may not help depending on the situation because I was scared of experimenting just because of it, when I should have been more worried about being who I really am, even thought it may have been a little uncomfortable during the process of "figuring yourself out", in the long run being who you really are is absolutely necessary.

    And being who you really are doesn't necessarily involve labels. Just be who you are, and let go of whatever is scaring you or holding you back. If you like dudes too, so what? If you don't, so what ? In the end, deep in there, it's yourself and you can't change it, just find it out.
     
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    Thank you for your response. I will try to stop overthinking things. Honestly when I'm not thinking and I'm in a good mood and state of mind I feel completely straight like I always have, but it's when I start over analyzing things that I get confused. I'll see a good looking guy and start wondering if there is more to it then just thinking they are good looking if that makes any sense. If you want to respond I would appreciate it and you can also look at my other threads for a little more detail
     
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    I have friends who are just friends. Have never thought of them sexually. I have a couple who I think of a lot, as a lot more than friends. Would I experiment with either of them? Heck Yeah! Would I be the one to start it? Heck No! To me it sounds like you are obsessing about them because you are worried about hurting the friendship. I agree about looking at gay porn and seeing if you are gay.
     
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    I have looked at gay porn to see my reaction to it. I didn't really enjoy watching it. There was a couple times where I kinda got hard, but still didn't really enjoy it. I don't think of any of my guy friends as more than friends it's just a few of my close friends that I have become worried about it. When I try to picture it I don't become aroused by it. Given the opportunity to experiment with them even if they initiated it id have to say that I would not want to. Still confusing tho

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    And I'm not worried about hurting the friendship at all, I just obsess over it because it's not something that I ever thought before and don't feel while I'm actually with them
     
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    Do you have obsessive compulsive traits in general? Some people fixate on sexual identity in an unnecessary way. If that's the case, you could find a therapist/psychologist to help you out.

    I think one thing to ask yourself is, why does this bother you so much? Why do you care so much whether you are attracted to guys sexually/romantically? If there's really no reason, then this really may be an obsessive compulsive behavior and you are entirely straight after all.

    However, many people lie in between the spectrum of homosexuality and heterosexuality so it's perfectly normal if you sometimes feel some type of attraction towards men. If the source of anxiety comes from not being able to accept this, then this may be your internalized homophobia or denial. Your mentioning getting aroused by gay porn but not enjoying it makes me feel like maybe there is this possibility.

    In any case, overthinking and testing out all these things don't seem to help you. If it doesn't help, then try something else. I'd recommend a therapist who can guide you in analyzing your more fundamental thoughts. If not with a therapist, you can still question why this bothers you so much and maybe tell yourself that what matters is how you are now, and you can embrace and appreciate your sexuality without having to "figure out" exactly what it is.
     
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    I don't know why I care so much other than I just don't want to be because it doesn't seem natural to me since I have never felt that way. I've never felt drawn or sexually attracted to a guy in person. I thought maybe the porn could've been just because of the act itself? Idk about that tho. I don't become aroused by made up mental fantasies or being around guys in person so I'm thinkingh I shouldn't take it as anything, but maybe I should you think?
     
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    If it doesn't seem natural to you whatsoever, then you don't have to "not want to be", because you're not. Don't you think? I don't think about not wanting to like carrots because I don't like carrots. This is axiomatic. You clearly say that you've never felt this way, so why is it still bothering you? I think it's either because you are obsessed over nothing in an unhealthy manner when you are clearly straight, in which case you should see a therapist for obsessive compulsive behavior, or you are deep in denial about your homosexual feelings and you don't want to accept it but it keeps on surfacing. Either way, I think it's best that you see a therapist who specialize in these issues to get the best help. No one online can truly tell you who you are or what you like, or what issues you are actually facing, but a professional may help you guide this difficult issue for you.
     
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    It's possible it's some obsessive compulsive thing for whatever reason, but I don't have obsessive compulsive behavior with other things so I doubt I have ocd. I have a habit of being obsessive but not the same as ocd I don't think. How would I know if I'm in denial? I've heard porn is just porn, idk how true that is. I don't watch it for pleasure or when I'm horny. When I'm horny it's always for girls. So does it sound like the few times I have had a semi erection or whatever and indication or do you think it was just a normal reaction to seeing porn. Also I didn't feel attracted to the guys in the video. I've been analyzing and while I think guys can be attractive, I don't feel sexually attracted to their bodies and whatnot like I always have and still do with girls. Thanks for your response by the way
     
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    Straight porn is straight porn, gay porn is gay porn.

    As a gay man, I will only get aroused while watching straight porn if I pay attention to the dude and the dude is attractive on my view. Lesbian porn does nothing to me. No arousal, no demi erection, no reactions.