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HELP.... I need advise and feeback

Discussion in 'Family, Friends, and Relationships' started by buttlerfly77, Sep 25, 2016.

  1. buttlerfly77

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    I am so confused and need any feedback that will help me understand my situation that has been going on for well over 9 years. I am been with my husband for 13 years and married for 10. We met in medical school and he was actually married to someone else at the time. His ex-wife mumbled something to me once and I asked her what she meant by that and she responded - I am not going to talk about our sex life with you but you will find out in due time. I did not know what she was referring to as we were have great sex at the time. After about a year, he started getting sick and he found out he had colon cancer. During this period of time, he did not feel well and was treated for cancer with radiation, surgery and chemo. After his recovery, he had to have a colostomy (permanent). We talked about this and continued to have sex on occasion and even got married after his surgical procedure. We then went through medical residency together and the hours and time away from each other did not foster a sexual relationship. After we finished residency, he had to go to an alcoholic rehab center for 3 months. When he returned home, he seemed to have no interest in sex at all. He did watch a lot of porn - which he did before - and when I would catch him, I would be disappointed that he did not try to initiate sex with me - but spend time masturbating to porn. It really hurt me that he was choosing porn over sex with me.

    He took a job where he was gone a week and home a week. He was not supposed to drink, but was able to predict when his sobriety urine test would come up and would drink to excess on certain days of the week. When he did this, I was informed by my son and several other men that he would attempt to kiss them and get extra friendly when he was drinking. Given the fact that we had sex only one time after he got out of rehab and only because he felt obligated and that was scary - that was in August of 2011. Several times I would after I would try to initiate sex with him and he would make excuses or different sorts - even saying you don't want to have sex with me I disgust you. I said "no" - your condition is not an issue. He insist that I his body disgusts me. I reminded him that I married him AFTER he got the colostomy,

    Well 5 years later, still no sex or intimacy in our marriage. Part of his drinking and working so many hours was to pretend he was dead tired all the time and if not sleeping, would be drunk. He seemed to not care about my sexual needs or my intimacy needs at all. He would have very little contact me with while at home, very few conversations and make his obligatory call before he went to work and talk for maybe at most 3 to 5 min.

    I am just so confused as there are so many ways to show intimacy and sexual attention in so many ways. He rejects all of them. Last year I finally got him to go out of town with me on a business meeting (after his second rehab) of getting caught drinking and we had a good time - still no intimacy or sex - matter of fact he slept in the second bed or on the hotel room couch.

    To sum up my fears and concerns, avoidance through actual or perceived fatigue, verified reports of him trying to kiss my son and others while under the influence, avoidance of any intimate or sexual connection with me. Matter of fact he has begun to hate my son (age 37) and I have even heard reports that he wanted him killed and had offered people money to do it. My son of course rejected him. He has even grabbed his leg a couple of time in the car and on the farm gator. When I approached him with what I heard, he denied it. When I approached him with his perceived gay behavior he denies it. When I approached him about attempting to kiss other males when drinking, he denies it. When I specifically ask him if he ever plans on being intimate with me again, he says I don't think I can have sex anymore. This could be due to his medical condition, his sexual confusion or his addiction to porn - I just don't know. I am very successful and attractive and he has made me feel worthless about myself. I told him that - he has nothing to say back but the words - I know I disgust you because I disgust myself sometimes. He goes to a therapist due to his rehab requirements but don't think he talks to her about any of this.

    Maybe I have made excuses for him like, sick, tired, overworked, stressed, busy, drunk?

    He seems to compensate when he tells me and other how many "tittie rubs" he gets from the nursing staff during his shift at the hospital.

    We are currently separated and he says he does not want a divorce, but really does not want to live with me either. I have poked around on his phone and email and can't find any place where he is having an affair with a man or woman. But people always have private emails and can clear their texting history too.

    What does anyone else think about this scenario? I often hear that when a person is drunk their true self comes out as well as their sexual interests?

    Would love to have feedback......

    Honesty and straight forward feedback appreciated.
     
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    Hi buttlerfly77,

    I don't have experience of the kind of situation you are but your story really got to me. I'm going to try and give some advice and hopefully it will help.

    First, I think you need to put yourself first. It sounds like you have done your best to support him and he's rejected that help (both in terms of trying to maintain your relationship and in terms of helping him with his drinking). I'm not going to impute any malice on his part - I think it's clear he has self-loathing issue that he needs to work through - but he hasn't treated you well at all. Particularly as you have tried to be open about the problems in your marriage.

    Second, with the gay behaviour - there is clearly something going on but only he can decide if his gay, bi, experimenting or just misdirecting his affection. From they way he has refused to have sex with you it seems likely that he might be gay but only he can really decide or accept that. If he is not prepared to admit that he has behaved in such a way then there's not a lot you can do as confronting him about it may just make things worse for you both.

    You say he doesn't want a divorce - do you want a divorce? If he doesn't want to live with you then I don't really know why he would object. It seems like you do still care for him but he is not helping himself and he is not accepting your help - it sounds like it is time for you to move on. You can't always be responsible for him - you can only support him but that will only help if he is willing put in effort as well. I think you need to decide what is best for you so you can live your life and enjoy it. I hope this helps and some others here might have better advice. Post back if you want to talk anything through or anything. Wishing you well.
     
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    I so appreciate your feedback. Divorce has never been my goal but given the fact he refuses to be intimate, I feel I have no choice. Due to rectal cancer, he received a permanent colostomy and seemed to deal with it for a while as we still had sex on occasion and intimacy. But over the past 6-7 years he has decided that his colostomy disgusts me and says "he is mutilated now". I have never made him feel that way or felt that way myself as he had his colostomy placed in 2005 and we married in 2006.

    I tell him I feel rejected and lonely. He responds by saying - how do you think I feel, I have been mutilated and I am now disgusting. I tell him that I need intimacy but he responds - this is not about you - this is about me. I say - it affects me and causing me a lot of emotional pain - intimacy is more than just intercourse.

    That is why I think he is hiding behind his colostomy as I think his reason for lack of intimacy towards me is (1) his colostomy (2) Porn addiction causing sexual problems (3) given his history of drinking and getting inappropriate with guys - gay?

    What I don't understand if we had good sex when we met - why did he withdraw? If he was bi-sexual then I would like he would continue to have sex with me and get friendly with men when drunk?

    Bottom line - he does not seem to understand the concept of intimacy or my needs. All he keeps saying is "this is NOT about you and has nothing to do with you".

    I feel his problems are multifactorial - I am writing on this forum to get other's opinions and thoughts as if I try to do this by myself I will not see both sides.

    Looking for a good therapist in my area and plan to go.

    So appreciate everyone taking the time to give me their thoughts.
     
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    I think maybe if you read back through your post and make a list of all the good and bad points about your husband.
    It sounds like a terrible situation to be in. I'm a married bisexual and possibly he is too or perhaps he's just gay but regardless he is showing you no love, no affection and no intimacy at all from the sounds of it. I think at this stage his sexuality is almost not a major consideration. He's neglected you for too long and I think you can say that you stuck it out longer than most but there's a decision to be made - do you want to carry on in that dreadful situation or get a divorce, make a clean start and maybe meet someone wonderful. It doesn't sound like you've much to lose. I think it's time to be strong for you.
     
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    First, just to be clear. It is about you - you're married and what affects one of you affects the other. Yes this is about you and how he treats you is about you - while it is also about him, he shouldn't invalidate what you experience in such a heartless manner. You're right that he doesn't seem to get that intimacy is an emotional as well as physical thing - more than that though he seems to be actively pushing you away and lashing out at you (presumably because he cannot deal with the problems he is facing).

    Second, he obviously has some deep seated issues about how he perceives himself. I don't know where this idea that he is mutilated has come from but it seems that he has come to view himself as such. It is something that he should really speak to his therapist about - he doesn't sound though like he is particularly open as a person, i.e. he doesn't speak to you or his therapist about how he feels.

    I agree with Keith83, his sexuality is not really priority right now - from the efforts you've made to understand and support him I think you would be able to handle that (if that was all). I think you might need to seriously consider divorce as an option but if you find a good therapist you can speak to them about. By the way, good for you that you are trying to find one to go to - hopefully it'll help you deal with things emotionally and help you find your way out this situation.

    Last point, no matter how much effort you are prepared to put in - if he isn't going to make an effort himself then it won't work. If he ever says you aren't doing enough or you don't make him feel good about himself (from what you've written it sounds like he might say something like that) then make sure you tell him that he has responsibility to put in effort as well. (Sorry, I don't like being so directive in what I say but it just sounds like your self-esteem has suffered a lot and you've really put a lot into him and your marriage which deserves acknowledgment.)