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I need advise from you teens out there

Discussion in 'Family, Friends, and Relationships' started by June Cleaver, Jun 5, 2013.

  1. June Cleaver

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    My partner has a 16yo son who is coming to live with us. His mom is my partners legal wife still as the divorce has not gone through. She is going on the road with her new BF and sending him away and his other two siblings to their dad. He has been around me a few times at family events when I was with my ex many years ago. His mom told him his father and I were dating. He asked his father if it was true and he told him we were really close friends. I go and pick him up on Friday and I am worried he will ask me about it because I worry he won't trust me if I lie about it now, but I don't want to disobey my husband either. He is 16 and who knows how long he will live with us. He is bound to figure it out quickly. I just want us to be a happy family.

    To those of you out there who have not read some of my posts before, I am a housewife and my partner goes to work. I am very happy he will be with us, but worried about how this is going to work out.

    My question is should I be honest with his son about us or keep lying? I have spent several hours a day the last couple days getting to know him by phone. See my partner had lost touch with his wife 3 years ago and had not talked with his son since 2010 and we still would not have known a phone# if the mom had not wanted him to go. Is it out of the realm of reality for me and him to be friends and him to accept me? He is a nice young man, well behaved and extremely smart. Would you 16yo guys out there accept if you dad had a trans-woman for a partner? What should I be aware of to avoid any problems? Any advise from you 16yo or so guys how you would feel in his shoes and how can I make it easier on him? Thank You, June
     
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    I would have an honest talk woth your partner on what you should do, if I was him (and you say hes smart) it wouldnt take long for me to figure out you two are together, whether or not you're trans would depend on other factors I don't have knowledge on.

    So, to me it would be understandable as to why you would lie, but I would prefer the truth.
    Also I don't know how you feel about pronouns but I would give him some time
     
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    Answer questions honestly, but don´t tell more than he really asked for.
    He is probably not very interested in your (love) life.
    Lots of teens take most stuff for granted. He might assume you are a couple because you live together and not think about it at all, really.
    I was very self centered when I was 16 (I´m 18 now) and was only interested in stuff that was directly affecting me. The lovelife of adults wasn´t.
     
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    Authenticity is always the right choice. If you lie to him, it will be obvious anyway, so all you'll do is make him distrust you (and his father.) So you need to get on the same page with your partner and make it clear that you need to be honest with his son.
     
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    Another vote for honesty. The only problem is avoiding too much information that might overwhelm him. You might want to ease into discussions about being a trans-woman.

    On a practical level, I don't see how you can keep it a secret. If he's smart, he'll figure something is going on. Particularly since he's been told by a 3rd party that you and Mike are dating.

    Also on a practical level: trying to lie and create an illusion will waste a huge amount of energy. If this were only a weekend, that would be one thing. But to maintain this illusion--which will almost certainly fail, anyway--for an unspecified length of time, with little downtime to catch your breath? You'd be setting yourself up a nervous collapse by the end of summer.
     
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    I don't mean to offend but this would be my input on it: I would be really confused about the whole issue of 'transgender' and I still am to this point as we have only been educated with knowning about homosexuality, not gender identity. Ultimateley, you telling me you were dating my dad would make me think that my dad is gay, why my mum and dad were living seperateley and how hard it must have been for my mum knowning this. In all honesty, I think you should test him out and see how he responds to LGBT issues/news and oif he's fine then settle in the news gently over a timescale.
     
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    Honesty is how I want to go with it. I have tried to convince Mike to be honest. He is dead set on close friends or cousins. Most people just don't understand I am a woman not a man and he is still straight. I agree with the poster I should not overwhelm him all at once. We will be in the car for many hours since I will be picking him up alone. If he brings it up, it will be then i'll bet. Thanks, June
     
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    No offense, but Mike has shown himself to be really screwed up in many ways. Don't let him fuck up the relationship his son is going to have with you by being complicit in lying to him.

    A 16 year old is not going to be overwhelmed by much of anything sexually. I guarantee you he watches porn and has almost certainly seen trans porn and/or had other exposure to trans people.

    I feel pretty strongly that, regardless of Mike's position, you should take the position that you won't lie. You don't have to come right out and say "I'm dating your dad" but you shouldn't avoid the topic, nor should you go along with any misdirection or lies of omission Mike makes. Mike is entitled to live with his own fucked-upness but he is *not* entitled to pass that on to his kid.
     
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    In many ways, teenager are more flexible than many adults. I doubt he'll have much of a problem with you being trans*
     
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    I think you are right! If asked I will be truthful. I talked with him today and Mike did too. I told Mike last night he is worried that we are as unstable as his mom in so many words. He is tired of moving, the screaming and yelling she does, and the constant changing of men she does and some abuse her he told me and she barely feeds him. He is being booted because her current boyfriend has no room for them as she is going on tour with her new BF who is a musician who lives in a RV. I told Mike last night that I thought he was asking about us because he wants to know will dad be with a bimbo next week pushing him out like mom did. I really think he wants stability. Oh in the last 3 years this is the second time he has been dumped by mom. I really don't think he is against me or looks down on us at all. I really hope he accepts me and comes to love me in time. He has only seen a woman like me on TV, oh the cis-woman variety of course. I am pretty sure he will settle right on in and accept me. Thanks for all the great answers, I really appreciate everyone taking the time. June
     
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    I think it depends on how his mother raised him.
    Obviously his father is very accepting of such circumstances but may want you to lie because he isn't sure how the situation would affect his son and their overall relationship. If the son is anything like his father, he probably will have no problem, although you mentioned prolonged isolation with the mother. She could oppose such relationships and have seeded similar thoughts in her child's brain.

    As for my teenage point of view, of course it would be awkward and take some getting used to, but I wouldn't mind in the long run as long as there are respectful feelings for both parties. Also remember, us teens are either inventing or reinventing ourselves during these years, so he is either open to learning new thoughts and views, or he is open to changing his current ones.

    All in all, I'd talk with your husband and let him know how you feel. I'm sure he'll understand, but keep in mind that he may want to explain this to his son himself. If he does, then just tell the boy that his father will talk to him about it and try to change subjects. You obviously know that he will find out eventually, and you don't want to start your relationship based on lies, but if your husband wishes that, then at least ask him to tell his son that he wanted you to say that so he could tell him personally.

    This is what i'd want to happen if I was the teenage boy in the situation so I hope I helped :slight_smile:
     
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    I think your angle on stability is a good one, and if you have talked to Mike about it like that, maybe he`ll see that it`s best for the boy that he feels he is in a safe and honest environment with two people in it who care about each other and him. A 16 year old today knows more about sex that some generations above him have learned during a life-time. They have access to all the information, and then some, online, on the TV. There`s probably very little on the topic that you can tell him, that he doesn`t already know when it comes to the facts. He might not completely understand the facts about trans*, but you can help him with that in time if he comes to you with questions. Thing is, if the two of you lie to him now, chances of him coming to either of you with questions in the future is very slim. Trust has to be earned, and if there was ever a time, I think it`s right now. If it starts of with lies, then he`ll expect lies in the future as well. Mike needs to understand that honesty is the best thing for his kid, if he wants his trust and acceptance.
     
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    I think you should definatly tell him!
    Well I'm 17 and I know if I was going to live with my parent I would want to know that kind of thing
    Plus you know how stubbon we are, if you don't tell him and he finds out that's probably gonna make him more angry and feel more weird than if you just told him
    I would just tell him polietly that your seeing his dad, you know it might be hard for him to get his head round so your not gonna bore him with any details but you'll be happy to discuss with him if he has any questions :slight_smile:
    Hope that was somewhat helpful, good luck with everything!
     
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    I took your advise and came out to him. He said it was a shock, but he was accepting of us. That was Friday in the car on our way home. I did ask him to let his father tell him on his own time and to keep it between us that I felt I wanted to be honest and his father felt he could not understand. I did explain I am a trans-woman and his father is still quite straight. He had never heard of trans people before. Since then he has settled in our home quite well and we get along great. I hope he never goes back to his mom. The first night he was here he complemented me by saying I am a much better cook than his mother and not to tell her he said it. LOL He also likes our home and property, and he loves his room which I outfitted with a 42 inch plasma TV and a new powermac laptop computer to use. I figured those things would make a 16 yo who is into video games would like. Mike has been too busy to spend much time with him yet and does not seem to understand his son plays games 24/7. So Mike oddly enough has clinged tighter to me and rarely talks with his son who barely comes out of his room. I am so happy to have him here and all turned out well so far. Thank you again for all your great advise and I also added a pic of them together to my album as soon as it gets through the moderators. June
     
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    I'm sorry I didn't realise this post before, but the posters before gave all the advice I could, well done and I hope you all get on well, which I'm sure you will! (*hug*)
     
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    Wow! Are you looking to adopt another son, say, a guy about 42?:lol:

    Seriously...I'm glad things are working. It's wonderful you are doing so much to make him comfortable. I hope there is a special spot in heaven for you--you deserve it!

    I think your approach for coming out might have been the best under the circumstances. At least, you are being honest, and I think that will count for a lot in the long haul.
     
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    I think that was an excellent way of handling it, June! He sounds like a mature and wonderful 16 year old, albeit he`ll end up a bit spoiled perhaps :lol: But I think you did the right thing here, so (*hug*)
     
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    Congratulations on him accepting you and mike! It was a difficult situation that you handled perfectly from the sounds of things.

    Is mike any closer to speaking to his son or have you told him that you came out to him?
     
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    No, Mike thinks he still does not know. His son is not a tough country boy like him. He does not understand his son is a gamer, not really into mud trucks, or outdoor activities. That is part of why Mike hardly talks to the boy because they have nothing in common. I found out the boy only found out Mike was his father 4 years ago when he went back to his wife for a second try which ended 3 years ago. Mike left her when the boy was young for another woman 14 years ago. His son wants two lip rings and three on the top of one ear lobe which I broke Mike in on the idea and Mike had a fit. I really think his son would not eat if I did not carry plates of food into him. I notice his son loves the Mac computer which has Scype and games on it and some how the players talk on a headset. I did not want him on my computer is why I got him one of his own. I don't know much about games or computers. His son and I are becoming good friends. Mike has been working late and not home much since he has been here. I have been watching movies every night with him as we eat dinner, just the two of us. From the sound of things his son has not had a stable life at all and he has not ever been around someone like me (a housewife). His mom sounds like the typical modern woman, real busy working, and dating lots of men and some have been abusive from what he has told me. I am trying to give him plenty of space but still giving him some attention. Thank you for the continued advise, because I am new at teenagers, and he is new at trans people. June :smilewave
     
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    Yeah, teenagers need space, but they also need to be seen, so I think you are doing a good job with this. It can be a difficult balance, but he sounds like a good kid. It`s great that the two of you watch movies together, doing family stuff together, like playing games, watching TV series or movies is good for the family relations. Whenever Mike is around, you should try and talk him into joining you, try finding some series or something that all 3 of you could enjoy watching. Plus, it`s good for him to spend some time with real people too, not just those behind the computer screen (says the resident gamer, lol). Has he started school yet? He probably had to change schools when he moved to you guys?