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Discussion in 'Gender Identity and Expression' started by Sam2, Jul 2, 2014.

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  1. Sam2

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    Hello, so i don't know if this is the right page to post this on, so lemme know if it is please:slight_smile: long story short Im a gay man, I had a boyfriend but we broke up. I started hanging out with this girl, who turned out to be a man... I think.
    (If I offend anyone I am very sorry, anything that may come off as offensive is simply my ignorance)
    anyway, she has had breast implants and facial surgery and over all looks like a woman. when she told me she has a penis... well we ended up having sex :slight_smile: so now im confused. Ive never found women attractive, but she is different, I mean she does have the most important (sexual) body part for me (not to say I only like her dick, just that i dont like vaginas haha. but still I think that changes my orientation... doesn't it? does it mean I am bisexual? or what?

    But the most important question I have, is what is and is not offensive (concerning names) on the internet all I find is "tranny and shemale" and those terms just seem pretty offensive (sorry again if I offend anyone). when we hang out, I simply refer to her as, well, her name! haha in my mind she is a woman, who unlike other women can satisfy sexual feelings. so I realize this is a stupid question but is there any particular Fraze I should avoid? I just don't want to hurt her feelings after shes been so supportive of me. so yea those are my questions any advice is greatly appreciated.
     
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    I consider those two terms very offensive, I know a few who don't but it is best to avoid them.

    I am really not sure about the sexual orientation part. Bi could be misleading, as you wouldn't date a cis woman, correct? Now I am confused!
     
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    I don't know a lot about terms and offensiveness but for sexual orientation, you might be biromantic homosexual so you're romantically attracted to both men and women but sexually attracted to male parts?
     
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    Androsexual is the inclusive term for someone attracted to penises. So androsexual biromantic maybe? Or just say bisexual, it's really no ones place to know that your lady friend is trans. You should probably refrain from terms like tranny and shemale, as they're used 99% of the time in a derogatory way. Just treat her like any other girl and you should be fine.
     
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    @KelsC yea They just seem so, derogatory. whats so confusing to me, is that I have never thought of being with a transsexual, so I never learned about gender identity.
     
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    She sounds like a woman to me. Are you attracted to her, or are you attracted to the idea of her having a male body/parts?

    This is probably where distinctions between sex and gender break down. In most people, the two align, but when they don't? It causes major confusion for most people, when considering their sexuality.

    There's no reason you can't still refer to yourself as gay, with one exception. Unless it becomes a pattern, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just make sure she knows why you're interested in her sexually. Plenty of gay men and women have had sex and relationships with members of the opposite sex, but that doesn't change their orientation.
     
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    @tone Ive never thought of it like that, but it makes a lot of sense. thanks

    @Entrian I've never called her a tranny or shemale, I can tell it would hurt her feelings. idk what to make of all this. like if she actually likes me, or if we just... had relations lol out of her pitty. All I know is i like her and dont want to do anything stupid haha guys gay or straight do stupid things, and we all no it

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    @gravechild that's just it, I like her for much more than her penis. she's smart, funny and interesting. since sleeping with her and being with her, I know longer know which I prefer, transsexuals or men.
    the problem is that I had my heart ripped out recently :tears: and she's been a tremendous source of support for me, (we became friends shortly after me and my bf started dating) so shes known me a bit, and I dont want to fall for her quick, I also dont want her to feel like a peice of meat, like Im only interested in her for sex. ugh Im so confused :bang:
     
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    I would maybe try to avoid talking about orientations around her. If you are with her and still call yourself gay, she may see that as you think of her as a man, which may make her really upset. It may not, but if it was me that would definitely make me quite upset.
     
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    Good point. There are plenty of lesbians and bisexual women who have "exceptions" for trans men, effeminate Asian males, etc. even if they prefer women as a whole. I happen to prefer longer hair on men, while shorter hair on women (the reverse would be a turn-off at worst, and get a "meh" response from me at best).

    @OP I think it's important to see transsexuals as men and women, and not some separate category. A trans woman is a woman, just like a black woman is a woman, a queer woman is a woman, a dominatrix is a woman. Perhaps you're into this one type of woman, for whatever reason, but generally prefer men.

    Why not tell her what you've told us?
     
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    Those terms are just as bad as if someone called you a f*ggot. I also heavily associate those terms with the porn industry and fetishists that don't consider transgendered people to be real people. The proper term is trans woman, or you could ignore that she's trans completely and just call her a woman. She didn't turn out to be a guy, she turned out to be trans.

    I understand that this might be a bit confusing for your orientation, I would go with queer. I'm not sure I like androsexual, it places to much of an emphasis on biology, but then again I suppose her biology is why you can like her in the first place, so I don't know. If you wanted you can keep on going on as gay, it really all depends on what you want to call yourself.
     
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    Im so confused....
     
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    also I do refer to her as a woman. in my mind she is
     
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    Yes. She is a woman, and despite her body, you have to start thinking about her as a her all the time in any situation. You aren't attracted to vagina, and that's ok. But she is a woman despite everything. Just call her a woman.

    I would suggest just presenting yourself as bisexual for now. You don't have to go after every woman, just this one.

    (sorry if I'm coming across as harsh or anything - you're doing well for your situation and it's ok to be confused)
     
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