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Can there be other reasons for feeling like the opposite gender?

Discussion in 'Gender Identity and Expression' started by Raatox, Jul 21, 2014.

  1. Raatox

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    Dear EC

    This May I realized that I will never grow up to be a girl and when I understood more about what transgender is, I suddenly saw this dysphoric-wish-i-was-a boy-path back to when I was about 6. It's not extremely clear; only dysphoric moments, lots of daydreams, feelings of beeing male, disconection from sex characteristics and lots of un-defined agony and disorientation. But telling myself that I am male does really make sense, at least to me.

    But explaining this to my mum is not really easy, she simply don't understand. Beccause I was never so boyish in her eyes.
    She thinks there might be other reasons, such as that I have high demands on myself as a woman.

    I really wish that it could be the case, so now I wonder if you have heard or experienced something like that? Like feeling trans, but there is something else than trans-ness behind it?
     
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    I don't know, but I think that the 'high expectations of yourself as a woman' may just be you having trouble fitting into your socially designated gender role. That would just be further evidence that you are trans. If you feel like you're not good at womanly things, it might just be because you don't like them in the first place.
     
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    It doesn't seem likely. Nothing that people can change, really.
     
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    It could be just being unsatisfied with gender roles. There are girls who want to be more boyish because being female has certain connotations and expectations. Sometimes they want to be seen as "not female" because of how society views females. But if you have dysphoria and want to change physical aspects of yourself and be completely male it's much more likely you're transgender than a woman rejecting society's views on women.
     
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    Hi,

    I'm not sure but I understand what you mean.
    I've been really depressed lately and was on the web one day and came across the whole transgender thing... started looking it up and it made me feel worse.
    But now I can't stop thinking about it. I took the cogiati test and it told me I wasn't transgender, just feminine. Weird thing is, I never really viewed myself as feminine.
    Now that I know about the whole transgender thing, it's really freaking me out and I can imagine myself as both a woman and a man... things I've never felt before.

    I do think that in some aspects, my life would be easier as a woman, but I'm not sure if that's just me trying to escape my feminine side or being gay.

    I'm pretty sure I don't have dysphoria, but I don't even know anymore.
     
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    I think your right about that, or, I have really tried beeing female, but since I don't know how I am as a girl I just tried doing waht I thought people expected me to, and that really brought my selfesteem down, I think.

    I thought about that too, but, I don't think I ever wasn't able to do aything beccause I was born female. At least not important stuff. And I dress male, and have been in the navy, I study a male-dominated subject, I have lots of male friends who sort of view me as a guy (even before I came out). I simply act quite male. But the thing is, I'm not a woman acting male, I AM a man, and I want people to see me as that. And I want a male body:bang:

    So I kind of know that I am trans.
    But can I still be mentally ill and make it all up beccause I'm confused and live by my self and read to much on the internet, as my mother suggests?? :eusa_doh:
     
  7. Doubt it. Being trans isn't a mental illness. It just isn't.

    And even if it was, wouldn't the only effective treatment be to let you do whatever you need to do to feel okay with yourself and your body? (Maybe hormones, maybe surgery, maybe a name change, etc)

    Feeling the way that you do about your gender does not mean that you're sick or wrong. Your mother is way off base. But either way, you're going to have to do whatever it is you need to do to be who you are and other people's feelings about that are not relevant to your body and your life.
     
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    To be honest, I doubt it too :slight_smile:

    But, it COULD be that i'm totally insane. But as I feel totaly healthy when alowing myself to be a guy, i think my assumed mental problems are really severe in that case. And I must admit that I'm rather trans than totally insane^^ But most likely is probably that my mum is in a denial phase, and I guess that's healthy too, in some way:rolle:
     
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    Ya of course. To think otherwise is naive. Our society is very gendered. Girls do this. Guys do that. Not fitting into what your birth sex is "expected" to be could cause desires like this. Many would say this isn't trans and they may be right but transsexuality is little researched as it is. Its all very murky though no doubt. Validity is another question however, but really though only the quality of life you have matters.
     
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    One of the therapists I have gone to said that depression and self-esteem problems are also possible reasons to feel kind of like dysphoria, as you disassociate yourself with your current self, and wish to be anything else other than that.

    Though I don't think it is applicable in this case, since you seems pretty healthy mentally for me. At times, when I am really down and out, sometimes i get that kind of self-doubt too, a little fear that, maybe after all, I am just really, really insane and broken. But then I realized, what if I am broken? What if I am insane? Should I live in suffering and pain just to be called "sane"? I rather be called insane, to be called broken, but able to live with myself, to live as who I am and to live in happiness.
     
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    Have you ever gotten your hormone levels checked?
     
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    Thanks for good inputs!

    Feeling that I don't fit in to society's woman-role is maybe the most probable alternative.
    But thing is, I can't imagine myself as a woman, regardless of what girls are expected to do. If I was all alone on an island and had everything I needed, It feeIs like I would still feel like a guy, and thinking about myself as a girl still feels wrong. :eusa_doh:

    Nope. I have a time at my health center next friday, maybe they can check it. Should I ask for that?
     
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    man, I know what you mean. I guess you can never be 100% sure and gotta just trust yourself and do what feels right and makes you happy. I worried about "being to young to know yourself" shit, but anyway I was sick of hating myself and had to realise that waiting years just to know for sure was basically a waste. You only got one life to live so better to make it a good one and live as much of it happy as you can. :wink: hope your goods
     
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    It sounds to me like you probably already know what you want, but you are letting others' doubts become your doubts. And it can be hard at times to push back against close friends and family, especially if it sounds like they are being reasonable. But the only person that can know if this is right is you.

    And I can understand the lure of the idea. I'm currently trying to take time to sort out my issues in a way that lets me figure out which are caused by social expectations, and which are caused by me ignoring or hiding my true self. I can sympathize with your situation, although maybe not to the same degree. If it does bother you enough, maybe taking the time to do the same might help?
     
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    There could be tons of reasons, but it really sounds like your mom is really more hoping than suggesting that the perfectly likely and reasonable reason you gave her isn't what's going on. My mom suggested I might be bigender, and really hinted at several points in my life that it would be okay if I came out as gay. A lot of people, whatever you tell them, suddenly every alternative sounds better. I am positive the reverse has happened; there is at least one person out there that has come out gay, and had parents suggest they might be trans.

    You have to give her time to work through this stuff. Just be patient.