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I Feel Like I Would NEVER EVER Be Considered A "Pretty Girl" On The Outside </3

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  1. Abi

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    I feel hopeless in this even if I do go on hormones or/and get any surgery done, to be frank.



    Judging from my avatar & profile photo, what do you honestly think?? Please be honest, I only want the truth even if its not sunshiney. Do you think I would ever be stereotypicaly pretty as a girl on the outside or not ????? :frowning2:




    I know this should not matter but it keeps me up at night :/:tears:
     
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    You look pretty now. Hormones will prolly do wonders.
     
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    Here's the thing about being pretty...

    You can be labeled Hottest/Prettiest Man/Woman of the Day/Week/Month/Year/Decade/Century, and not everybody is going to agree to that. You have to know that, and accept that.

    Secondly, there are two kinds of "pretty". One, is the aesthetic kind, which everybody knows of. The second, the lesser known kind, is how one carries and projects themselves. If you don't think/believe/feel you are attractive, it is VERY unlikely anybody else is going to think so. As selfish as it is, most people are drawn to those who, they either want to be, or would like to be with. If you radiate nothing like this, you are only going to experiencing a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    If appearing like a woman, is what you desire, strive for that. We can't appeal to everybody, because everybody has different tastes and indulgences. Trying to find that "universal attraction", is like trying to find a particular grain of sand in a desert.

    All that said, I suppose you still want my honest opinion...

    From what I can see, you have a feminine-looking face. More so than my own. I believe you could pass, though it, like most anything else in life, is going to take time, effort, and patience. But more importantly, it's going to take self-love.
     
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    I agree with the post above. One of my best friends is the most confident (in the good way), positive people I know. She is absolutely stunning. While you may not feel pretty, know that if you want to be pretty, you can and will be. And as mentioned above, there is no universally pretty. The truth is that you look feminine, and you can look and feel however you want with enough work! :slight_smile:
     
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    This. Anyway, if you want me to be honest, you look pretty boyish from first glance. But studying your face a little more, it looks feminine. It will take some effort, but I think you could pass.
     
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    You will be absolutely beautiful as a girl. No doubt about it.
     
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    OoOoOoo...
     
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    I know you did not mean any disrespect <3 but I am already a girl if i'm trans'

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    <3 Thanks yous verys muchs for the long nice post <3 ^_^

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    Thanks for the honesty
     
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    everyone has a different definition of "pretty", and honestly, i think you look gorgeous in your avatar. you have a very nice bone structure and your eyes are really pretty. i hope that didn't sound creepy :confused:
     
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    You might have a look at this thread:
    http://emptyclosets.com/forum/anony...on/147192-transitioning-where-do-i-start.html

    Some say to let the girl inside shine through helps...
    not in an exaggerated way, just be yourself...
    if you feel that way it will show in your mannerism etc...
    just relax and take your time, others have succeeded, too...
    and enjoy the way, not only the goal...
    pick some roses along the way...
     
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    Thanks yous, sir', and no you don't sound creepy <3

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    Oh geez, thanks :0 :slight_smile:
     
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    A typically "masculine" face has a large jaw, high/prominent cheekbones, deep/narrow eyes, big nose, narrow lips, wide face and wide forehead. As far as I can tell, you have none of these.

    It's hard to tell, but you appear to not be unusually tall - so that would help as well.

    So with the right clothes and makeup - you would definitely pass in my opinion.
     
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    Mangotree's description is exactly why I think I couldn't pass (and my body shape, having massive shoulders for my height). You definitely could, and probably without much work. :thumbsup:
     
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    Awwwwwiezz <33(*hug*)

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    You look really neat in your pictures, I bet YOU could in fact pass
     
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    Word that popped into my mind was *gosh*. I told myself to stop thinking about that because I needed to get over it a long time ago. :icon_redf
     
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    (*hug*)(*hug*)(*hug*)(*hug*)
     
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    Abi...
    You look like an amazing girl, your face has just the right look, you have soft and lovable eyes, everything about you screams "Hey! I'm a beautiful girl!!"
    It may not be the look you're striving for yet, but, you look stunning!
     
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    First off yes you look beautiful. The bangs look great on you. :thumbsup:

    If you're asking about passing specifically (because for some stupid reason heteronormative society sometimes creates this association between beauty and passing) then yes I think you could pass, either right away or given some time. I think femininity is more about facial expressions, mannerisms, attitude, etc. than it is about your exact facial geometry or body shape.

    But let me put in my hippie-dippie two cents: every ladyperson ever worries if she's beautiful. There is no objective beauty. Sometimes I find myself holding my flaws in my head like a map charting out my most distasteful bodily regions. But someone else likes 'em, and I may like his/her/their flaws. We all have stuff going on with our bodies, and it's impossible to be attractive to every person all the time; but it's impossible to be unattractive to everyone. Attraction is more than physical; it comes from within. Hear me out, I'm not trying to be mushy or touchy feely!! I've thought people were attractive until I got to know them, and vice versa.

    One of the earth shattering realizations I had when I first came out to myself is that I didn't find femmes particularly attractive, no matter how objectively beautiful. Then another of the earth shattering realizations I had was that I could find femmes attractive, and that it more depends on their personality and energy than it does masculinity or femininity. So not only do I not have to agree with society about who is attractive... I don't even have to base it purely on first impression/looks! And I'm sure this applies to many other people, especially (but not limited to) those in the queer community. I'd take comfort in that.

    tl;dr Don't worry too much, and you'll do just fine buddy!
     
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    I just cried happy tears from reading this, lol

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    (*hug*)(*hug*)(*hug*)

    Thank YOU SO SO SO SO SOOOOOOOOOO SO SO SUPER DUPER MUCH <3