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Idols/Role models

Discussion in 'Gender Identity and Expression' started by Invidia, Mar 16, 2016.

  1. Invidia

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    Are your idols and/or role models 'consistent', so to say, with your gender identity? Or is the gender of the people you idolize not relevant?

    For me, I think gender is at least a little bit relevant. I seldom/never idolize masculine lumberjack males. I will more often idolize women. However, I can also idolize and look up to androgynous or feminine guys, even think "I'd like to be like that."
    I find that interesting for myself. As I'm not fully out yet, I present as female about half of the time, and male but androgynous half the time. Sometimes I even feel like just 'being androgynous' is enough for me, like I don't need to transition, and at other times I feel like I definitely need to transition. It's confusing...

    Anyways, bit of a random question, but feel free to share your thoughts. :slight_smile: xo
     
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    No, admiring someone is totally separate from relating to them for me. I admire women and men equally. There's often a certain trait or achievement I admire about a person, like being compassionate or motivated. I also never idolise lumberjacks, whatever their gender. But I think I don't idolise their feminine counterpart either, whatever it is. Maybe the kind of person who always makes a victim out of themself?
     
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    Since I can remember I understood better men, so most of the people you'd call role models for me were (and tend to be nowadays) men. Now and then there is some woman I admire for what she does, but I can't (never could) identify with her.
     
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    My role models/idols tend to be male. Unless within my family then its female, but I think that is because most older people in my family are female, while my generation is nothing but males.

    When I was a teen some ultra feminist friend brought to my attention that all my role models seemed to male and that I needed to change. So for a few years I made an effort to find females to look up to and ignored the men.
     
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    Role model and idol are separate concepts to me. So for instance most of the celebrities (actors, singers mainly) that I admire are male, for some reason. I just like to see women as cool and powerful characters, and there is less of them. Furiosa and Ellen Ripley do not hapen each year :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:. I'm not sure why there is more men among celebrities I admire, but I do know cis women who are the same so I'm not worried.

    Role model, however... this sounds like someone I would like to learn from. And for that reason, I would say it is Laura Jane Grace, because her expression matches what I would want for myself and she is trans, so there is a lot I can relate to and see her as an example of being brave. And she's a punk rocker, lead singer of Against Me!, so quite successful.


    So bottom line is... people I admire tend to be mostly male for some reason, while people I relate to the most (and call role models) always share at least part of my struggle. And would match my gender, often in the sense of showing that a woman is something more than stereotypes.
     
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    I've always had a tendency to look up to "queer" people tbh. Whether that's regarding gender identity or sexuality or any of that. My current role model is the drag queen Jinkx Monsoon and I also really look up to a korean idol named pyo jihoon <3
     
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    I can admire both genders, but if I'm to idolize somebody, they'd pretty much have to be women. That just seems to be how I work.
     
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    I look up to men and women in different ways. Sure, I have female role models, there are lots of girls like that--but for men, I'm more prone to emulate their behavior and look up to them a bit more. If a girl is really smart, for example, I'll think it's really cool that she's smart and I'll want to be like her, but if a guy is really smart, I'll try to be like him in other ways and probably think about him more.

    I can remember doing that with Finn from Adventure Time and Captain America when I was really young I sort of had an obsession with being heroic, and I'd mimic Cap's mannerisms from movies that he was in, sort of involuntarily. I can't think of a girl I've felt the same way about.