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Bi or gay? god damn this is confusing

Discussion in 'Gender Identity and Expression' started by JoeyGee, Apr 27, 2013.

  1. JoeyGee

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    Alright soo the situation is ive been straight since day one i was even attracted to girls before all my other friends were at a super young age lately ive become attracted to guys as well and sometimes i feel as if im more attracted to them now them i am to women but other times its the complete opposite, i watch almost always straight porn because i dont like to think about the fact that i like guys and i enjoy it just as much, girls still make me hard in person and last night a girl started giving me a handjob under my pants and i was staying hard but ive gone soft before when another girl gave me head, i dont know if that was just nerves or because im fully gay and dont realize it, please help im only in grade 9 so this is a little overwhelming and hard to figure out ahaha give me feedback if you can, thanks
     
  2. Cougar

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    It's really easy.

    You are BISEXUAL ...

    ... but you are still afraid of your homosexuality. :icon_wink

    IF you lose interest in women THAN call yourself GAY
    IF you lose interest in men THAN call yourself STRAIGHT
    ELSE go on calling yourself BISEXUAL

    And never forget Safer Sex!
     
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    If you're attracted to both sexes then you're at least bisexual.
     
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    Why "at least"? Can you be attracted to both sexes and be gay/straight? That doesn't make sense. I thought sexual orientation was on a continuum, and it's certainly possible to be like 60/40 or 70/30 on the continuum. So then you are more gay/straight. But I don't think you can be 60% gay and not bisexual, in a certain respect, because you still are attracted to women, even if it may be less than to men, or vice versa.
     
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    People have different definitions on labels.

    People label me as gay as I tell them that I don't really see myself falling for a woman. However, I would weigh myself as 85% gay and 15% straight. I personally label myself as gay, with some straight tendencies:eusa_danc

    It's what you're personally comfortable with, really(!)
     
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    I like the algorithm :icon_bigg
     
  7. Chip

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    Labels are for clothes. :slight_smile:

    A lot of people who are 70, 80, 90% attracted to the same sex identify themselves as "gay" for convenience. A lot of people who are 20, 30, 40% attracted to same sex identify as "straight" for convenience.

    And of course, there are quite a few who, early in their coming out process, aren't yet comfortable owning the fact that they're almost exclusively or exclusively attractted to same-sex people, who use the "bisexual" label as a bridge to being able to accept themselves.

    What really matters here is coming to love and accept yourself as you are, whether you're attracted to men, women, or both.
     
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    for the person who said its easy your an idiot because it really isnt ahaha
     
  9. wrhla

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    labels are a trap that just screw you up. I still have to remind myself of that. I have decided to stop trying to figure it out. and i think the Kinsey scale can be a trap as well, offering the illusion that something as subjective as sexuality can be measured as if it were part of a formula. Likewise the references to 70/30, 60/40, etc.

    I am sexually attracted to both men and women. And at different points in my life, one or another has seemed stronger. I have called myself gay and I have called myself bi and now I have just quite trying to come up with a label.
     
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    I'm with wrhla on this one. I just let go of the labels and percentages (most of the time). And I get horny for guys. And now I get hornier for girls, surely leading back to my more straight sexuality. But the truth is, conversely to what Chip said, even if I am 60/40 straight or gay, or 70/30 straight or gay (if I find myself getting super crazy horny for girls like I did before, and speaking with many bisexuals who went through this, I think it has a good shot of happening), I know I will not identify as straight, because I do have attractions to men. But having attractions to women, I do not see it as a bridge to being gay. A happy bi am I! And I'm happy with the trinary way of identifying, because it's general and leaves me less room for thinking and more room for enjoying sexuality!
     
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    Well, this might actually be the happiest post I've seen from you yet. It screams elation, much like when a fledgling gay man admits, 'I LIKE GUYS! I'M GAY!' At some point, we must determine whether our attraction toward the opposite sex is genuine, or a defense mechanism, and in my case, it never felt forced. I'm comfortable with it, and since discovering and accepting my same-sex attractions, it hasn't disappeared or gotten weaker, excluding 'phases'.

    Though, since joining EC, I've *really* started questioning my gender identity, which I think might have been the underlying cause to questioning my sexuality and other issues relating to identity. The fact that I relate better to many genderqueer and multisexual individuals speaks volumes, and more so when the two are usually correlated.

    Labels more-or-less point you in the right direction, but it's up to the individual to derive meaning from them in a way that is unique to their own experiences. What 'bisexual' means to me might mean something entirely different for you, and so on.
     
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    Thanks, gravechild (that song keeps getting stuck in my head typing your name!). Yeah, I feel more productive now. Also, maybe it's spring. But though my same-sex attractions are stronger now, they also feel pretty much how my opposite sex attractions used to feel, approximately. I mean, I'm sure I'm bi. Something tells me it feels pretty right to me, even if the attractions fluctuate. And I am beginning to see my girl how I always wanted to see her, as beautiful, amazing, and perfect (well, mostly - relationships still make us human). So I feel happy about that - having that strong emotional connection with her (as well as sexual, and knowing that I still have that from back in the day - and I trust it will come back in time, one way or another). I almost wanna go out and buy some bisexual t-shirts or something to be proud of and wear! Have fun with it.

    Unfortunately, I don't know much about gender issues. I don't think I've ever thought about that. I don't really understand what makes someone more masculine/feminine. I just know I'm me, and I'm happy with it.

    I like your definition about labels, gravechild. Makes a lot of sense.
     
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    all im really trying to find out is do you think if i were to try anything sexual with another girl it would work or would i go soft again and risk everyone finding out about my sexuality